Pity the poor soldier
Donald Rumsfeld thanks British soldiersThere will be no British heroes in Iraq.
There will be no triumphal parades. There will be no victory celebrations. The war will never end for there is no definable end point.
How did we get there in the first place? Entirely on the whim of the Prime Minister. Those who are not students of British Constitution may have little understanding of the unfettered powers of Royal Prerogative that, in terms of military action at least, are little changed since the days of Henry VII. Except for one thing. The powers are now enjoyed and exercised on behalf of the monarch by the Prime Minister.
Henry VII 1485-1509Blair took our forces into Iraq, on the coat tails of Bush and Rumsfeld, for reasons that defy rational analysis. Let's not even bother with the WMD charade. Absurdly misdirected “revenge” for 9/11? Maybe. Oil, of course, is never out of the equation.
I suspect however that, deep down, both Blair and Bush were satisfying an atavistic need to emulate the Crusades against the "infidel". The Islamic world saw the Crusades as cruel and savage onslaughts by European Christians, and the Pan-Islamism movement continues to call Western involvement in the Middle East a "crusade". You may not agree, but look at the graph below which breaks down the deaths caused by the current hostilities.
The Crusaders
"Collateral Damage"No one laments the demise of Saddam Hussein. Nor would we lament the overthrow of Robert Mugawbe, Kim Jong-il or the Burmese Junta but we will not be invading any of those countries, however repugnant we find their regimes. I wish I could say the same about Iran.
Pity the poor soldier, for there will be no heroes in Iraq.
I have several patients who have served in Iraq. One, who I will call David, was a paratrooper. He was a career soldier. He was blown up when the vehicle in which he was travelling went over a land mine. He has a vague memory of flying up in the air, but nothing else. He sustained horrific injuries to one leg. The medical care he received from the army was first rate. He lost count of the number of operations. Finally, he was honourable discharged from the Army. He is no longer “able bodied” or not in terms of being a paratrooper. He cannot play rugby. He can and does play squash. He is, of course, lucky to be alive. He knows that. And yet, his chosen career has gone. Does he keep in touch with Army friends? Not really. Paratroopers are not very good with injured ex-colleagues. He has met some of them for a pint a couple of times, but he feels uncomfortable, almost ashamed.
Pity the poor soldier who fights in an unpopular war.
The general public's reaction to injured ex-service men from Iraq is one of embarrassment. As for Afghanistan, well, it gives a whole new meaning to the expression “a far away country of which we know nothing.” How many British teenagers could place Afghanistan on a map and then write 100 words on the Mujahideen and the Taliban?
Gordon Brown is pulling the troops out of Iraq. But there will be no announcement. They will creep home surreptitiously, in dribs and drabs. There will be no welcome parade for them, and precious little thanks. Think of the appalling Nimbys of Gray’s Lane, Ashtead, in leafy-laned Surrey. They will be first in the queue to buy a Poppy in November, but they fought tooth and nail to prevent the Army using a house on their precious road for convalescing soldiers (see Proud to be British)
Soldiers have always had a difficult time adapting to civilian life. Second only to the mentally ill, they form a disproportionately large part of the down-and-out population.
Ex-servicemen should have fast track access to all that the NHS has to offer. Specifically and particularly, they need access to specialised rehabilitation services, both physical and psychological. At present, once they have left the Army, there is nothing.
I am ashamed at how little I have to offer them.
Labels: Iraq, Saddam Hussein, soldiers, Tony Blair
207 Comments:
Peripheral, I know, but historians write that the Islamic world forgot all about the Crusades pretty quickly, only making a fuss of them after contact with Europeans again in the 19th Century, who talked about them. The muslims spotted a good debating line, I suppose.
Stick to the knitting please.
yea off at a tangent here arent we?
you are right british forces deserve better
they should be getting lifetime private medical bills paid, not forced to put up with the shit and squalour of the nhs
being a bit hard on the folk of Gray’s Lane, Ashtead, the argument was that the families accomodation should have been closer to the wounded soldiers accomodation, reducing the need for noisy mini buses etc to transport the families through a residential area at all hours of the day and night, I think british forces deserve much better rest and recovery and rehabilitation facilities, and that for me means also having family accomodation actually part of the same site
dearieme, it is a long way from being a footnote, although the crusades certainly should be. Indeed there is an entire book by Robert Spencer on the politics of the crusades.
The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades)
There's a good review on Amazon, which I will reproduce in part, rather than writing my own inept summary.
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Spencer discusses the reasons why the Crusades began, and clears up a number of myths surrounding them. In short, he argues, it is more accurate to view the Crusades as a defensive war, a reaction to 400 years of Islamic expansion and imperialism. The attempt to reclaim the Holy Lands and rescue Christians was a big factor in the Crusades.
While much excess of violence took place, and the Crusades were far from perfect, they do need to be seen in context. A number of points are raised by Spencer. For example, he cites Muslim authorities who in fact claim that Muslims tended to fare better in lands taken by the Crusaders than in Muslim lands!
And as for the 1099 sack of Jerusalem, yes it was barbaric in many ways. Yet it was not out of line with standard military practices of the day, be they Western or Muslim. Indeed, Muslim commentators of the day took a rather laconic interest in the whole matter. It was only later that this episode in particular, and the Crusades in general, became ammunition in the Muslim propaganda wars.
And what about equally odious Muslim offensives, such as the sack of Constantinople in 1453? While we constantly hear Westerners today apologising for what we did or did not do long ago, one hardly ever hears Muslims apologising for this event, or the massacre of the Armenians from 1915 to 1917, or dozens of other major Muslim atrocities. Where is the hand-wringing over these acts? Why are only Western shortcomings highlighted?
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The crusades are now exploited by Islamists to pursue their agenda, it is very unwise for liberals like the good Doctor to fall for their line - whereas Western civilization has moved on so much, radical Islam remains stuck in that era, and it is not one we should ever wish to return to.
I think it is foolish for 'us' to side with 'them', when they seek to beat us with sticks from the past, be it slavery, the crusades, or anything else. There are things that 'they' are doing now, that moral relativism forbids us from judging, but we are still falling for the Social Marxism of criticising ourselves while simultaneously refusing to condemn others.
American take on that histogram:
Well, as you can see, British and American civilian casualties have been minimal. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
There are things that 'they' are doing now, that moral relativism forbids us from judging,
ah the old 'moral relativism' canard...
but we are still falling for the Social Marxism of criticising ourselves while simultaneously refusing to condemn others.
do you know anything at all about Marxism? (No.)
To what might conceivably be your point. It is of course not true that liberals (I use the term loosely) are not concerned about, say, honour killings (not a Muslim custom, a regional one) or the oppression of women in Afghanistan (an oppression our policies have fostered). (Etc.)
John, yes the US has parades for its returning troops -- we do too, but ours are different -- but medical treatment for veterans there can, despite the relative excellence of the Veterans Health Administration, be subject to the kind of market-led values that beset market-insurance-based medical care elsewhere.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
Sneak home and pray you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=E9ji-4ZKFU8
Why is it off topic? There are no military hospitals for returning soldiers to come home to. They have no medical provision for mental health. They are all affected from serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are serving on behalf of their country.
People cough and change the subject if you say a member of your family is in the military and is serving in a war zone. People are embarrassed or rude in their response.
With 16,000 armed forces personnel dead since the end of WWII, it would be good if the country could reconnect. The media finally seems to be more supportive, but the average man on the street hasn't a clue what these young men and women are going through.
It is no defense in the nation's apathy to argue that these people chose that job, so they should get on with it. Is a little bit of compassion so hard to come by these days?
My sister is 20 and in the RMP. She served in Iraq last year. Her boyfriend, 26, is doing his second tour of duty with only a five-month break in between. They are both expecting to go to Afghanistan next year. In the last 12 months they have gone from passionate about the army and the collective team spirit to utterly defeated about their role in Iraq. They do not feel the army cares about them, let alone the country and its government and its people. They feel isolated. They are leaving in droves.
miliatry fashion
Alternatively:
'Here dead lie we, who did not choose
To live; and shame the Land from whence we sprung.
Life to be sure is nothing much to lose;
But young men think it is; and we were young.
From memory, and I can never remember who wrote it so apologies for any error.
I think that there may be campaign medals. It appears, at least, that the Americans are thinking of campaign medals. (This summer, I happened to spend a couple of hours with two people from the Canadian armed forces who had just been to the Pentagon to discuss medals.)
Not as good has having one's own two legs but an enduring way of acknowledging someone's service.
typical example:
"honour killings (not a Muslim custom, a regional one) or the oppression of women in Afghanistan (an oppression our policies have fostered). (Etc.)"
Nearly all honour killings are carried out by Muslims. Equally, female circumcision in Indonesia is carried out only of Muslims, not Christians.
You claim to disagree with me, but then blame the oppression of women on us evil Westerners - exactly the point I was making, you don't want to say that which is self evident, namely that Muslim [you would also prevaricate about any other group, except white Westerners of course] attitudes to women [insert any other abhorrent set of beliefs, except ones hold by white Westerners] are wrong. I can assure you that this cultural relativism does not happen in reverse.
Announcements of their return aren't necessary. Let's just be thankful they're returning home.
You claim to disagree with me, but then blame the oppression of women on us evil Westerners
nonsense. The people mainly responsible for oppressing women in Afghanistan are Afghans. The condition of women in Afghanistan worsened with the withdrawal of Soviet forces. When I said
the oppression of women in Afghanistan (an oppression our policies have fostered)
I wasn't saying, as you bizarrely believe, that 'the West'/'Westerners' are doing the oppressing. I'm saying the result of our invasion of Afghanistan has not been a liberation of women from the Taliban (and non-Taliban oppressing forces), far from it. Nor, of course, was the plight of women the reason for the invasion, and their plight will not decide that we remain. Indeed, a number of white Western men I know, supporters of the War on Iraq and Afghanistan, appear to have noticed the oppression of Muslim women only as a result of that war.
Female genital mutilation and honour killings are regional customs, not Muslim. I agree that Christians in those regions will not practice them (I assume they will not, anyway, it's said they won't), but there's evidence that Hindus (clearly here I speak of Asia) do carry out honour killings.
(I am not a cultural relativist. You are so convinced that someone on the left must be, that you can't even read what I say.)
Not, be it said, that women are equal in 'the West'.
Dr Crippen - it is too late for me to wade through all the replies/comments but that is perhaps one of your most poignant and political posts its brevity makes it even stronger.
Have missed you.
Dr C
The Ozzie gold card system is a winner. Run by the equivalent of the brisitsh legion (loose analogy) it provides Ozzy serviceman (Diggers) who have seen action/been injured with "free" private health care. It was not free for them to earn it.
Maybe a similar system in the UK would be a good start. But given that the military has a habit of off loading it's servicemen/women and widows with speed - I doubt it would ever come to fruition in the UK.
Dr Sniper
Dr Sniper
my point, jayann, is that your first instinct is to blame the West. Yes, you acknowledge after probing that it is an Afghan custom, but you only managed initially to mention Western policy, as if this were the cause of it.
And to say that FGM is not a Muslim custom but a regional one, when it is only carried out by Muslims in a given region, is truly bizarre, and I'm not sure how you can believe it.
and of course, you could not leave without yet another dig at us nasty Westerners, making reference to women in the West, as if there were some equivalence between the killing of women for being raped, the forcing of non-Muslim women to wear burqas, with the West, where the merest suggestion of sexual discrimination will land you in court.
where the merest suggestion of sexual discrimination will land you in court.
I suggest you take your paranoid delusions elsewhere
This post may help some think a little more clearly when the man or lady from the Royal British legion offers them a poppy later this month. It pricks the conscience.
I strongly suspect you are wrong about Blair and Bush wanting to emulate the Crusades. In Blair's case I think the explanation is much simpler and much more cynical. That he saw a war in Iraq as his Falklands, ie an opportunity to emulate Thatcher. As her reputation – and electoral appeal – were enormously strengthened by the Falklands, so he believed his would be by Iraq.
American firepower saw to it that the military risk was negligible, so Blair knew he would end up on the winning side.
The only flaw – a mere detail in his own mind; rather more obvious to most others – in his reasoning was that whereas the Faklands had been invaded by an outside power, this time it was Britain and the US doing the invading.
Still, in the end it's Brown who has to cope with the fall-out now, a task needless to say he is approaching with his usual mendacity.
"I suggest you take your paranoid delusions elsewhere"
jayann, I suggest you've been rumbled.
Dr Crippen
Most of what you say is very insightful and poignant. However, knowing what a stickler you are for detail it loses credibility when you repeat the misconception that the PM took us to war. It was Parliament that voted for this following current parliamentary rules. The PM does not have the power alone to make this decision. Thank God.
Alternatively, you could quite easliy see te Crusades as the West's response to 400 years of aggressive exoansionism, and the repression of Christians under Islam.
Can't type today. I meant the 400 years of aggressive expansion by Islam, only stopped at Poitiers.
indeed crippo, the funny thing is us limp-wristed liberal Westerners can't stop beating ourselves up over nasty things other white people did hundreds of years ago. Yet the US censure of Turkey for apparent genocide in Armenia brought a swift response and withdrawal of the Ambassador.
The result of this is that most Westerners get the impression that the only slavery was/is Westerners enslaving Africans, that the crusades were unprovoked and inappropriate in their historical context, etc. This leads to a very distorted view of the world.
Take a look at this photo for the human side of war:
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007/10/war_what_is_it_1.html
Take a look at this photo for the human side of war:
http://tinyurl.com/2scyjj
(The link works this time)
"atavistic need to replacate the crusades".
Hey Doc, please tell me you're not on the mental health side of the house.
No matter what you think of the reasons for being in the war in the first place, the fact is that our troops fought what was tantamount to islamist all-stars including friends from the taliban, al qaeda and palestine.
These "friends" for whom you weep, are our most determined and fanatical enemy since imperial japan.
Look at the reception for Benezir Bhutto. Do you really think people in the mid-east want to live under islamist sharia? I would suggest your implicit suggestion that they would is as wrong as your assertion that none of this would have happened if not for us.
What troops need (and as a veteran, I feel quite entitled to give an opinion on the matter) are front line staff who can show a bit of leadership and respect for those in their charge by taking responsibility for filthy hospitals and disinterested staff, who could actually care less about the unique needs of returning troops.
If you truly did care, perhaps you would care to be an advocate for a specialist MoD hospital, a centre for excellence, al la Ramstein for the US, and stop conflating your views about the war and the treatment of our troops.
There's nothing wonderful about military hospitals. I spent time in one having surgery and rehab, and I'd rather be in a civvy hospital any day. I've also been an NCO in a military hospital and I wasn't impressed with what I saw in terms of officer attitudes in there either. This country may produce first class army surgeons, but back home their attitude to subordinates and patients stinks.
I think that everyone should receive treatment according to clinical need.
Going slightly off topic and returning to the 'should we fine patients who are late' argument - not so long ago I had cause to visit a military health centre. At reception there are large signs up which states something along the lines of 'The Medical Officer will not see you if you are late'.
I was dying to ask - what happens if the doctor runs late??? Perhaps they start a timer when you go in and when your time's up and the pinger goes they show you the door regardless of your clinical need???!
Dr Crip
I don't know where you live, but here in an area with many military bases within a 30m radius, I see plenty of celebration for the return of our soldiers, I also get to see first hand the mourning of relatives whose loved ones shall never return.
I also get many young servicemen, who have been injured during their basic training term, on my ward. A few yrs ago they would be happy and confident about their 1st deployment, not any more. Some even seem relieved that their injury will delay their deployment and their eyes tell their fear.
Anon,
If you are no one then i don't believe you.
Were you on a base? if not then nearly all the medical centers are now in NHS hospitals.
As an ex-sevice member and hopefully soon to be Military doctor then i totally agree with the sign.
It's one of the reasons thigs run so much better in the military (esp the health centres).
Insomniac, its weird but i think it depends on the force, the Marines i know had to be randomly allocated when only a few posts came up back out in Iraq and so many asked to go out.
I think the army guys do have it rough and i wish things were better.
Hi Funny Pseudonmy - no I am not 'no one'. Don't believe what - that all patients should be treated according to clinical need, that I saw the sign, or that the sign existed?!
The health centre I refer to is in Tidworth, Wiltshire. I was there in January 2006 as they used to have a Registrar's Office downstairs and we went to register my second son's birth.
Do tell - do the medics have a pinger and shove the patient out of the door when the time is up so they always run to time?
Not in my unit they didn't. The officers took too long to sober up in the mornings to keep track of the timings. Some of them didn't even bother to change from the night before before running their clinics. (I'm not talking about field conditions.)
Where did this estimate of the number dead come from? The Lancet estimates from Johns Hopkins have been pretty thoroughly examined and found wanting due, for one things, to likely sampling problems.
Other estimates of civilians killed peak at 2-3,000 a month until 2007. Since then they have dropped. In 4 years this is still half or less of what you've reported. And that has to be offset against Hussein's murderous activities. Estimates of civilian deaths in the civilian population when Hussein was in power range from 2,100 a month to 3,750 a month every month. Estimates for the war are nowhere near that.
On October 23, 2006 the BBC estimated that 44,206 Iraqi civilians and 2,578 Iraqi police had been killed since may 2003.
The graph - I think that those numbers may actually grossly underestimate the Iraqi civilian deaths. By comparing the death rates before and after the invasion, authors in the Lancet estimated excess civilian deaths resultant from the invasion to be over 600,000 - and that was OVER A YEAR AGO.
It is good to see you back Dr Crippen
Crip, do you remember that doctor who was court marshalled for his views on Iraq. Have you any idea what happened to him?
Last we heard, the GMC had got hold of him.
Rita
RE: "Where did this estimate of the number dead come from? The Lancet estimates from Johns Hopkins have been pretty thoroughly examined and found wanting due, for one things, to likely sampling problems".
The Chief Scientific Adviser to the Ministry of Defence was one of those who examined it pretty thoroughly, and he concluded that the methodology was "close to best practice". Therefore, he advised his Minister not to try to rubbish the report. This confidential advice was obtained by a Sunday paper (was it the Times?) under the Freedom of Information Act.
The Chief Scientfic Adviser is Professor Sir Roy Anderson, FRS, a leading epidemiologist and the future Rector of Imperial College. I believe that the Lancet estimate is the best estimate available. The Johns Hopkins epidemiologists defended themselves effectively and it is also good to have the work endorsed by the British Government's adviser.
funny fucker had his little prejudices proven wrong again, oh dear how sad
funnily enuf i could tell some detailed stories of medicine in the forces if they were relevant
no one
Sorry there are a lot of anon postings. No one does from high powered meetings around the world to shitty crap covered inner city GP surgeries now to military hospitals. I find him a bit hard to believe.
I bet i can tell more than you.
As i have already stated i am ex-military.
Hasler hospital was pretty impressive, nutty sorry to hear you had a bad time. I never met many army surgeons and i don't know if attitudes vary across the forces but the lot i know are pretty good blokes (the female meidical officers i knew were all medical not surgical).
Having now worked in the NHS DGH's & PFI teaching hospitals as well as a couple of military ones i can say i think the military ones ran more smoothly.
In the offices i went to there was no pinger, you were expected to turn up on time and then were seen for as long as needed.
However everyone turing up on time did make things run more to time.
re "I find him a bit hard to believe" you cynic, if you just opened your mind and listened you may get a whole new perspective on reality, for i have not told any intentional porkies, although my memory isnt perfect and im sure i make the odd mistake, your characterisation of what ive said isnt strictly accurate either
no one
Funny Pseudonym - I was being unfair. (I was in a bad mood.) Whilst the attitude of many of the officers I met left a lot to be desired, there were good ones. I remember one RAF Squadron Leader who was adored by all the patients because he was so kind and helpful.
Never thought about it before; there is no UK equivalent to our Veteran's Administration hospitals?
Not that you would necessarily be missing much. A lot of VA work is really chronic disease only tangentially related to military service. If we had some equivalent to the NHS most of the people in the VA would not be trying to claim service-connected illness to travel a long distance for service that could be easily done at a local hospital.
Not that I'd like to see the NHS transplanted here.......
But where is the rehabilitation work done in the UK? Out of the local NHS hospital?
There has been talk about eliminating the VA except maybe for the rehab part, and creating some sort of voucher for local hospital care for our veterans.
A lot of veterans, my father included, really use the VA like a giant pharmacy. He has no service-related illness, though he was worried about radiation exposure after seeing close-up what an atomic bomb does to a Japanese city. Personally, I find my third eye quite useful at times. But I digress. The VA provides free medications, even though father really has no service-connected illness or injury.
.....arf
Good to see you back John.
I waited months for your return then, within a week the bastards at work have used their net nazi software to block you.
Six month's ago they blocked the Rant network as 'Offensive' now they block you as a 'Social network site' akin to facebook.
I get far more useful information for work from this site than I do from the DoH.
Bastards.
Ted
Funny
The lads I have looked after didn't know where they are going to be posted to. I think that they had been scared to death by media stories, although TBH it is a yr or two since we last had a serviceman on the ward. At the mo I have a friend whose husband has just been posted in Afaganistan, she is secretly terrified that he wont come home, she never verbalises that fear.
Nail on the head, Dr C
The number of wobbly ex-servicemen living on the streets is related to the number of wobbly young people joining the services in the first place. Which is not to say that we do not owe them a special responsibility, just to suggest that more ought to be done to help them to learn to cope better while they are still in the service.
I disagree anon, most of the men i knew in the forces (again maybe its just the Navy) were pretty stable guys. It would be hard to hold it together at sea for months on end in close quarters if you were a nutjob or "wobbly" as you so nicly put it.
Active service in some areas is the problem, i know guys who have seen thier mates killed and have carried on very well. I know other guys who have seen people injured and gone on to obsess about it and not be able to carry on.
I don't think these guys are any different to the general public it's just that most people are not put in a position to see an RPG hit the place thier friend is standing to know how they wold cope.
Welcome back. Poignant and to the point. A schoolfriend of my brothers was killed in Iraq - he was just 21! The waste of it never fails to bring the tears. The same friend cannot have his name on the town war memorial because it is a conflict and not a War. The troubel is most of us go on living our comfortable lives and if we have no contact with the army it doesn't come into our sphere and so this appalling betrayal of our soldiers is allowed to continue. The leats the deserve is the best medical care and they are not getting it.
arf, there are some army hospitals here and there's Headingly Court army rehab centre in Surrey (very good, apparently), also of course members of the armed forces are treated in NHS hospitals. So, it's a bit like the proposals you mention (VA rehab-only), which make sense to me.
Not that I'd like to see the NHS transplanted here.......
No shit.... :)
(There was an interesting piece in one of my papers, about a week ago, about our armed forces' field medicine and about armed forces' rehab here, but I haven't been able to find it for you, sorry.)
Dr. Crippen, speaking as one who cares for war wounded, I am frustrated because I think prevention of injuries would be better than anything I can accomplish in recovery. But the question looms, say what you may about how we got here, what is the best path forward, for all states involved?
(not that I have the answer!)
Peace to you,
Chris
Kudos! Very informative article, keep up the good works! More power
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K
have you left us again, Dr. C?
Does anyone know where the good doctor is?
Matthew,
I am British of Arab origin. You seem to be mixed up, or "choose" to mix things up because of your apparant hatred of Islam. I have no intention of trying to correct you because this will go in vain and because you have set your own opinion based on deep prejudice. Your prejudice, your business, none of mine! Of course Christians in Afica circomcise their girls too but, either moslims or those christians come from certain backgrounds and classes that would benefit from education and financial help rather than criticism. Same goes for the opression of women, however, it may surprise you to "learn" that this so called oppression of women is mostly a myth invented by people, and historians, like yourself who distort facts to suit their own agenda.
At the begining of the Iraq war, which I opposed because I do not approve that war is ever the solution, I used to watch the news and cry for the innocent Iraqis who were killed simply because they lived in this part of the world when they were bombed while in their own houses for no valid reason. I also cried for our young soldiers who did not choose to go and die in a strange land and have their lives wasted and their familes grieving over their loss. A mother crying over a dead child breaks my heart regardless where in the world she may be.
Watching the news became so depressing for me, I have now totally stopped but my heart goes to all the families that lost loved ones because of this war. A war that was built on deciet and without regard to human life.
Our poor young soldiers who were wounded need our full attention and help in any which way we can. The least we can demand for them if we are to call ourselves human.
Where is Crippen?
I was wondering where the doc is too.
Perhaps we ought to go looking for him on the other blogs
Mr. British Arab, I know an Indonesian woman who converted to Islam, and was circumcised at the age of 16. I also know that Christian girls in Indonesia do not get circumcised, only Muslims. I am not knowledgable about African circumcision, so have not passed comment.
This is fact, I have no idea why you think it bigotry.
nice post
Sorry you seem to have stopped blogging again, Dr Crippen. Hope all is well.
Whee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [shrugs]
Dr Crippen i hope your ok,
I for one say i enjoy your blog when it happens and would rather you took it easy and didn't burn out on the blogging front again than post every day!
Enjoy the weekend.
come on doc u ok?
no one
Hear hear, no one! John, we don't want to push you into posting, you really do not owe us posts, we owe you for your work. But we are concerned. Take care.
Hope your OK Dr C,
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Someone go to Patricia Hewitt's back yard.
Look for freshly turned earth.
I fear you may find Dr. Crippen there.
.......arf
Given both the onset of winter and the continuing farce that is NuLab Health Inc, he's probably had enough - I don't blame him. He's flown the flag higher and harder than most.
Hope you're ok, Dr Crippen. Best wishes from the wards.
Does anyone know where the good doc is or if he's OK? Someone who reads this must know. Just tell us he's OK.
Agreed. Someone on here must know if the doc is OK, just to put our minds at rest.
http://www.workconnexions.com/Profile/207.aspx
Is this the new Blogspot for Dr J?
[Hope this isn't a double post - apologies if it is - the "Publish Comment" button seems to be playing up...]
That new site (http://www.workconnexions.com/Profile/207.aspx) contains two October posts from the original NHS Blog Doctor site (but reset with November dates). They look like straightforward cut and paste jobs.
Raises all sorts of interesting questions!
If Dr C has migrated to another site - why not say so (and say why)?
Is someone plagarising Dr C? Again, if so why? OK it is a very good blog but...
Remote diagnosis is always dodgy to say the least but my money is on Dr C having bi-polar disorder. Having followed his excellent blog for some time, I cannot help but note periods of intense activity mingled, recently, with long abscences. He even said before one absence the muse had gone. And on top of that there is something about his (proper and to be applauded) concern for patients with psychiatric problems that at times seems to me to go beyond the professional and move towards the personal.
I have known a few docs with BPD over the years, and at least one of them was a blogger (only it was in print and we called it being a columnist then).
If my hunches are right, I wish Dr C all the best. Even if he stays off-air, he will still have written some of the best medical posts that we have yet seen.
My lay-person's theory and fear is that blogging became an addiction for Dr C, and that he was wise enough to recognise this and to realise that the only way to escape was to stop totally.
I hope it's not the case but whatever the reason he has stopped, and whether it's temporary or permanent, I am grateful for all the time and effort he has put in to educate, inform and entertain us, and to fight for causes he holds dear.
Dr C - I hope your are well and looking after yourself - and your family and patients.
t the begining of the Iraq war, which I opposed because I do not approve that war is ever the solution, I used to watch the news and cry for the innocent Iraqis who were killed simply because they lived in this part of the world when they were bombed while in their own houses for no valid reason. I also cried for our young soldiers who did not choose to go and die in a strange land and have their lives wasted and their familes grieving over their loss. A mother crying over a dead child breaks my heart regardless where in the world she may be.
acer laptop battery
Anonymous 1300, I think it's a bit much to diagnose anything on the basis of a blog, much less both BD and BPD.
Could you at least tell us if this is it and if you're OK Dr JC?
Dr. Crippen has reverted to Islam. He is currently undergoing training in Pakistan.
Allahu akbar!
Best wishes, doc.
Hey Ducky, we're thinking of you here and hoping all's well
Hey Dr Crippen
Missing the intelligent, witty insight into the NHS!
Hope all is well with you.
Perhaps a representative of Her Majesties Government has used some of these shiny new anti-terror laws to persuade the Doctor to stop being so naughty?
I shouldn't have sent Dr Crippen an e-mail about the problems in New South Wales, Australia hospitals. It's obviously been too much knowing that a job in the antipodes isn't the answer, although our private system is still very good.
Maybe he's just off at a "re-education" camp learning about the glory of New Labor.
I think he's probably abandoned us :(
Would have been nice if he at least said s o m e t h i n g.
Perhaps he has finally been arrested for eating swans and is now held in the Tower.
Miss your blog, but can understand if perhaps the muse has faded.
Hope you are OK
Best wishes
Ann
Dr Crippen,
The Voices tell me that you wrote your forgotten blogspot password on a post-it that is stuck to the back of your kitchen clock.
Please listen to the Voices as they say they will only go away when you start to post again.
At least come and bow out.........please!
missing your blog.
Hope all is well
junior doc
Come out now, or we'll send the exceptionally scary Dr Rita pal round to drag you out by the hair.
Dr. Crippen,
It seems that you have departed the land of bloggers as so many before you, without even a farewell.
I'm sorry about that.
Margaret
Does someone not know who he really is so as to confirm that all is well with him, at home and work. That's all we really want to know. You're like part of the family now; first thing checked every day after news and e-mail.
Fiona
He still has a feature on Hospital Doctor but these seem to be old blogs. He wouldn't still be published there without comment if something serious had happened.
Good luck Dr C. We all miss you.
He sleeps with the fishes.
Allahu akbar!
Where are you Dr C?
There is now a void in my heart. I miss you loads.
Dr C -
Come back! Your blog has grown to be more than you. It is a forum where we (Joe Blogs) can hash out the important stuff wihtout fear of media spin. You have been honest with yor views. You have created a reasonable freedom. Come back and share with us.
Dr Sniper
I am a doctor, I receive Hospital Doctor every week and occasionally read your column, but this is the first time I have read your blog (looks like I am too late)
I am also Iraqi
Having read this entry I thank you for the first half, I cannot comment on the second part regarding your soldiers.
I then read the comments, and found them more informative on how me and mine are actually perceived.
The columns you show seem to mean very little to so many people, it is different for me, they may have been missed or they may have been counted, if so then within the column is an uncle, a school friend and her mother, the father of a friend, and the husband of another, although only one was killed directly by “allied” forces, they all died in a country made less habitable thanks to the occupation.
I am just one Iraqi, and I know so many who have died violently in the past four years, so for me the size of the column feels about right.
You may choose to hide behind endless arguments about the horrors of Islam, the validity of the Crusades, or any other of a whole list of philosophical debates, to avoid facing the reality of what “you” as an army who chose your “career”, “you” as politicians choosing your “excuses” and “you” as the people “electing” your politicians have accepted as a valid price for “your” own continued “lifestyles”.
I will not claim to care but am not surprised that when the lives of close to a million of “us lesser humans” are brushed aside, that the welfare of the few hundred soldiers is less than perfectly catered for.
Dr C,
WHERE
ARE
YOU?
:-(
John
If you're out there - our offer still stands. Drop us a line....
Frank and The Team
Dr C come back please, go on....at least let us know whats going on.
I am a doctor, I receive Hospital Doctor every week and occasionally read your column, but this is the first time I have read your blog (looks like I am too late)
I am also Iraqi...
You could not be more full of crap if you were born a cow.
I shall now take this opportunity to rebut Dr Crippen's frequent assertations that midwives 'want women to suffer', are 'dishonest', 'patronise women' etc. He admits that he has an 'inbuilt antipathy toward them (midwives)' and so, due to this, I believe that his evidence as to the failings of midwives cannot be accepted as unpartial and is therefore totally unreliable.
Come on then Dr Crippen, prove me wrong - please. I would be delighted if you surfaced and pointed out the shortcomings of my profession!
If Cripppen has the intelligence he is fond of trumpeting that he has, he may have read over some of his previous posts and be feeling a little embarrassed. He should be. *Some* of his posts have been ill-informed rants which tend to present his opinions as fact. He has not justified his assertions with valid references and seems to believe his position as a GP does not require him to. It is his blog and he is absolutely entitled to publish his opinion, but he has done so whilst using his educated position to garner credibility. Unfortunately for him, it only takes one ill-informed blog post presented as fact to lose him credibility for all blog posts. That is why I (and others) stopped visiting the blog on a regular basis. Readers who follow up and do a little research on the assertions he makes are bound to feel let down. That just leaves the people who do not question what they are told. Perhaps the declining readership has told Crippen something he needed to know, and he has wisely decided to bail out before being "dumped". It is a shame, because he probably does have something valuable to contribute, but he has spoiled it for himself by failing to follow the most basic academic principles.
Just for the record, I have no connection with the medical profession whatsoever.
Anonymous (08/12 - 11:56) - I think you are being a bit unfair on our erstwhile host.
There are many professional journals and internet sites which contain reams and reams of purely scientific data, but bereft of the literary panache, and personal prejudices that made Dr Crippen such essential reading.
I'll bet many of his regular commentators learnt a little bit about themselves after crossing swords with him - I know I did.
Anonymous (08/12 - 11:56). If all that you said was true, why are so many people asking where Dr C is? I suggest you go and stop reading this all over again rather than jumping in when it is clear that Dr c is not around to defend his posts.
Fiona
Anon @ Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:56:00 AM,
"Academic principles?" Dr. Crippen simply tells it as it is, straight from the horse's mouth.
Kind of unprofessional to just leave everyone hanging.
Anon - "Kind of unprofessional to just leave everyone hanging."
That's rather unsympathetic - what if Dr C is ill, or someone in his family is ill? or he is having to deal with some other personal crisis?
Dr C, we're all worried. Please let us know you're still around at least.
Dr. C? Where art thou?
Hello to you all.
This is not an easy comment to write, and I apologise for the lack of a full post, but 'John' was more than a little security conscious when it came to passwords, I have contacted "blogger" to explain circumstances but as yet have not had a reply.
Getting to the point, so to speak, I am a senior partner at 'John's practice, I have only become aware of this 'weblog' after accessing his email account through our internal system. Other partners have read this website, but none of us knew who the author was - although in retrospect there are a number of clues we could have picked up on!
There is no easy way to say this, but the doctor known as 'John' or 'Crippen' passed away in a road traffic accident mid-October. Although I appreciate the esteem in which many of you obviously held him, I must ask that the emails cease as of now - they are all redirected to our mail server and this is causing some difficulty.
Dr. Crippen's identity may no longer need to be secret for his own purposes, but out of respect for his family and remaining colleagues I shall not be sharing this here, neither will I post another message or reply to any left. This webblog will be removed once I can circumnavigate the security protocols for obvious reasons of confidentiality.
This said, I thank all who visit here for their support of our dear, and much missed colleague.
Kind regards, Dr.P.
Oh my God, no. I did NOT want to hear this.
Dunno, but sounds genuine to me. If so, rest in peace, brother.
Oh
My
God...
I
Don't
Want
To
Believe
It.
I'm in shock - someone please tell me that this is some sort of sick joke? Who is Dr. P and how can we verify this information?
Why take down the whole blog? It's an amazing read. So many of us can benefit from past posts.
--drncc--
it can't be true?
:(
NO.
Losing Dr John Crippen is terribly sad.
I knew him only through his blog, but developed a great admiration and respect for him.
To lose his blog as well would, for me, be doubly sad - especially if it can be avoided.
However the priority now must be whatever is best for his wife and his children.
No. Thoughts are with his family.
I am so sad and shocked to hear this news.
Thoughts are with family and friends.
I'm really sorry to hear this. My sympathies to his family and friends.
This is awful news. I'd prefer if the blog was left here in his memory, but of course whatever is best for his family must come first.
K
very sda
I'm so very sorry
Dear Lord, no. Someone please tell me this is a terrible joke.
Please. It's not funny.
How sad.
'Died mid October', meaning 'he' wrote this last post 2 days after he died? :-(
Dr Crippen was so well known and well loved and well respected through the blogosphere that I am sure there must be people out there in the real world who know his identity.
I would have eexpected there to be more of a public memorial if he had died.
Do hope the news of his death was a sick joke.
Best wishes to Dr Crippen during his absence. He is much missed.
It is strange that I cannot find any local news about the death of any GPs in October at all (apart from elderly retired ones)...
The real Dr. Crippen or a hijacking of his name?
http://www.workconnexions.com/blog/NHSBlogDoctor.aspx
If this is true, then its so very sad, and Dr C will be missed, but I have serched all news sites but no sign of a GP been killed in a RTA in mid october.
Dr P,
If it's true then it's terribly sad - and would be terribly sad also if all the work Dr C put into this blog was deleted. Find a publisher or find someone to maintain the site but please don't destroy the work. It's become more than a blog now, it's a piece of social history.
my heart is in my mouth.
alas, let this be a reminder to us all to live a full and fulfilling life - just as Dr C did.
Crippen is fine. I've checked.
He's just had enough for the moment. He may be back, he may not.
DK
Has he morphed into Reggie Perrin, Devil ?
My heart is sick this morning after reading this at Dr. A's blog. If this is some horrible joke then please Dr. Crippen come on here in a new post and tell us you are not dead. You wouldn't have to say anymore than that. Just write a post and then close off comments if you dont want any. We would all understand and would so much appreciate it.
I do hope this is not true. If god forbid it is please do not delete the past posts, Dr Crippin was there for me to read for the first year of applying for and studying medicine, for me he was a true inspiration and a fine doctor and I have learnt so much from him. So many more could do so too whether first years or consultants
This all smacks of some sort of sick joke.
I have put up an announcement.
Seriously, I checked with one of his good friends: the doc's fine, just busy.
DK
Thank you DK. That's a big relief. 'Dr P' - what the hell were you playing at?!
The "announcement" by Dr P was QED (quite evidently dogsbollocks) from the start. I did a check myself and there were no road traffic accidents involving GPs reported anywhere in the UK betwen 17-31 October.
Also the bit about taking the blog down "for reasons of confidentiality" did not ring true as no-one's confidentiality was being compromised.
Thanks DK for clearing it up.
Apart from anything else, John never used his practice's email address. He always used his home address or his GMail.
DK
I have not found any info on a GP dying in a traffic accident in October either.
I think this is false.
I think he just got fed up. He had a very long break over the summer and still didn't start reposting when he said he would. When he finally did turn up, it was brief.
He did once say by email though that the posts were planned ahead and scheduled to appear at certain times, so he planned the blogs in advance and set 'timers' for them AFAIK.
I don't know what to make of that other Dr Crippen blog. Sure looks like Crippen's style, but why would he start up on a lesser known site when it was going well here if he was still interested in doing this. Too odd. Must be a fake.
I think the articles on this 'new' site are repeats...some are very familiar indeed
http://www.workconnexions.com/blog/NHSBlogDoctor.aspx
I've looked through all those articles at workconnexions - they have all featured on nhsblogdoc before. Must just be a sad Crippen wannabe.
Those all look like hi-jacked posts. They are Dr. Crippen's exact posts just redated to look like they were recently put there.
People hi-jack posts all the time, especially from an inactive blog.
Many of you probably dont remember when Dr. Dork went missing for months and we were all worried he had died or was seriously ill. Dr. Crippen was right in there with us and he and I emailed a couple of times trying to understand what could have happened to poor Dr. Dork. He knew how it felt to be left with no explanation when a friend just dissapears. He was quite concerned. I think he will do a new post if he is able. If no new post then I believe it will be because, for whatever reason, he is unable to do so. That does not necessarily equal death, but maybe other reasons. Maybe he cannot risk doing a post.
Obvious it was a hoax from the opening line. Why put 'John' in inverted commas when its his real christian name? Duh.
I've checked www.gmc-uk.org and he's still registered as alive, not deceased.
could have been the doc's own way of making sure he gets enough attention without having to blog ;)
Was Patricia Hewitt driving the other car?
Somehow I have this picture of her waiting outside the car park revving her engine, waiting for Dr. Crippen to drive off.
anon 6:14, what name did you check when you did that? John Crippen? If so, that is not his real name.
No I think anon 6:14 knows Dr Crippen's real name. He/she must be the same anon that posted on my blog.
Thank goodness.
What sort of sick bastard would post a rumour like that?
anon 9:02 - I checked under his real name, not his blog pseudonym.
Angry medic, if this is not true then the so called Dr P. is indeed a sick bastard! But, of course I would surely be much more happy with him being a bastard than the alternative.
It appears that reports of Dr C's demise have been somewhat exaggerated.
In case it gets deleted, I found this comment at
Paul Lindel's blog
Dr.P. said...
Damn, you got me. I knew I should have used a less easily investigated 'cause of death' but equally hoped to generate as much 'internets dorama' as possible, and in this I would, as far as my RSS reader suggests, have been successful. My reasons for this sick bit of fun are at least threefold. Firstly, I am a troll. Pure and simple. If you are not familiar with the behaviour of trolls I suggest consulting encyclopediadramatica.com or the overated /b/ on 4chan. Secondly, I had hoped to force the good doctor to issue some form of rebuttal but it seems he is not yet breaking radio silence. Thirdly, I have crossed swords with the guy many times through his blog due to his supreme arrogance towards the many of us out there who do not hold, or want to hold, the title of 'doctor', yet do a generally good job of holding the NHS together. Better still, I am a nurse - some of us can even use computers these days 'John' (although we of couse have to make way when some preteen SHO needs to check her facebook). Many of us enjoy gaining new skills and expertise for the sake of our patients, not because we are hopeless wannabes to stupid to get in to medical school - you would not want to know what the nurses you 'keep in their place' think about you behind your back. And please, remove your rings and watches, leave your tie at home and roll up your sleeves, you supercilious bastards, you make the rest of us look bad.
So, there you go. Blogger death hoax perpetrated by bitter resentful nurse shock. Nurse with a good proxy, btw. If you wonder why I did it, ask yourself how much time you wasted 'investigating' if a fictional doctor who dropped all his 'fans' with out bothering to say goodbye (or even "fuck off") had died or not. Win for me, I think.
And I chose you to tell, Mr. Linford, because I found your blog at random and it seemed as good a place as any. I have an extreme case of unwarranted self-importance and the attention focused on my 'act' causes my e-penis to grow by the post. Feed the troll or starve him to death - you decide.
To anyone pointing out what a callous bastard I am, please remeber this is the internets, we are not talking about real people - I have not hurt Dr.Crippen's friends and family because they do not know who he (or she) is. All I have (hopefully) done is pissed off a bunch of people who take the web way too seriously. If anyone can be bothered to flame me (and again this is YOUR choice Paul - do you repost this to a blog someone actually reads, or just delete it?) remember THAT IS WHAT I WANT!
Merry Christmas everyone xxx
15 December, 2007 00:38
Anyone believe this? Surely there can't be that many hoaxers around? Or is this like a murder case where all the crazies come out of the woodwork to confess?
Dr.Crippen, I am so glad you (appear) to be okay. I am investigating the relevant authorities to report this to, but have not been successful - surely there is a way to obtain this tosspot's internet address and identify them? Payback time, methinks.
Death (or at least significant hassle) to 'Dr.P'!
By the way - it takes a very long time for the GMC to remove deceased doctors from the register, so 'checking' means nothing.
The GMC is an administrative pile of shite as well as a ivory tower for fuckwits.
One of my colleagues died last year and was registered as deceased on the GMC website within about a week.
Crippen. Is. Alive. And. Well.
I can't state it any more clearly than that. I am not surprised that he has ceased blogging for the moment: in his last post before his first hiatus, he expressed all of the classic signs of blog fatigue.
The star that burns twice as brightly, etc. etc.
DK
He is indeed alive. Call his practice if you want to check.
But is he well? No heart attack, stroke, nervous breakdown etc? Let's hope so.
Thanks for your messages DK, I am pleased to hear that the good Doctor is still with us (but more importantly, also with his wife and children)
How awful to read some fuckwit telling everyone you've died.
Thanks for the clarification
Why can't he at least just come back and wrap it all up? It's just so rude and looks bad, for him, to leave it like this.
Yes, but why should he jump to the tune of a troll? I don't think that Devil's Kitchen would assure us that Dr C is fine unless he had good reason.
K
A final goodbye blog post would be nice.
I don't mean he should come back and 'wrap it up' in terms of the troll. I just meant generally.
Check out the post on Burning Our Money blog and you will see that Crippen is fine.
I'm Doctor Crippen and so is my wife!!
sings
"They seek him here, they seek him there,
They seek him everywhere............................."
Maybe the good Doctor(s) have had their identity rumbled and are feeling their collective collars felt by the long arm of the law, or by their respective health authorities? If that is the case then anyone who has posted here in the past might need to watch out see;
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/law/12/04/blog.arrest.ap/
me I’m changing my name to Augusto Pinochet and moving somewhere sunny. ☺
Dr C,
If
You're
Alive
Then
Atleast
Let
Us
Know...
:-(
PLEASE?
Be nice, just be polite and let us know you're just fed up with blogging and calling it a day. Come on, it's Christmas!!
Whoa, whoa, give the man a break. I don't think he's gone off blogging for good, just taking a blog-fatigue-induced break. The Devil's told us he's putting on his spammer-arse-kicking boots anyways.
I only hope the revelation of Dr P as a nurse doesn't start the whole doctors vs nurses mudslinging again...
you started it twat face ;-)
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Genitally Challenged Anonymous: No, Dr P him/herself started it when he/she admitted to being a nurse in the first place. Other bloggers picked up on this before I did. And if you had any familiarity with my blogging at all, you'd know that I have been one of the most vocal supporters of nurses in blogdom; in fact that's how Dr Crippen and I got started. Check your facts before you open your mouth from behind your safe anonymous keyboard.
And twat face? Any blind retard could tell that my horn makes me look a lot more like a dickhead. Just goes to show your infamiliarity with genitalia, since you a) obviously have no sex life and b) obviously have no balls.
And if I ever find out who this Ana Maria spammer is, she's the one who's gonna need a nurse.
GO
GEDDEM
ANGRY!
Happy Christmas Dr C. Come back to us in the New Year.
Fi
Ooooh how very dare I. Keep your hair on angry medic it's Christmas
:-o
Genitally Challenged Anonymous
Angry Medic
;-) usually implies that a sense of irony is to be inferred and that the comment is not meant to be taken seriously. A clever chap like you should know that, :-) (Implying good natured banter and not hurtful sarcasm as may initially nave been inferred)
Happy Christmas :-* (A Christmas kiss, not implying I am gay or anything)
Hey happy christmas everybody. Hoping to hear more from Dr Crippen in the new year. Bryn x
There are reasons why people dont post
Perhaps his laptop blew up or something
Perhaps he was waiting for the January Sales to get a laptop...
Anyway The Pirate Britmeds are at
http://nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com/
I'm very glad to hear John's alive.Am feeling a bit of a twatface myself cos I wrote him a nice obituary.Ach well,you shouldn't wait until people are dead to say that you like them..
Ps Is it just me, or do you find those word verification things hard? Mine's mbybwhla this time round.Or is it mbybwbla? or mbybwnla.. hell..
Regarding the sick "joke" by "Dr P". So you are a nurse - heaven help your patients. The endless list of complaints made by patients at our practice about the poor nursing care received while in hospital makes the comments by Dr C extremely relevant. Stop bristling with self justification and start doing YOUR job; caring properly for the patient. It just ain't happening enough nowadays.
Anonymous [31st Dec 4:39].
You complain about poor nursing care, take a look at this;
http://militantmedicalnurse.blogspot.com
And how about this;
http://www.mentalnurse.org.uk/2007/12/29/a-stranger-in-the-midst-of-absurdity-and-chaos/
You don't tell us if you are a doc, nurse, or practice receptionist, perhaps ?
But blaming poor standards of nursing care on one errant [yet provocative] poster is a bit like blaming various medical failings on the late Dr Shipman, isn't it ?
The pseudo-grief associated with the good doctors latest sabbatical is discussed intelligently by "E" over at mental nurses place [see above link] - there is one item though that should be avoided at all costs...... unless medical erotica happens to be your bag ?
Happy New Year Dr Crippen.
Yeah...
HAPPY
NEW
YEAR
DR C.
Wherever
You
Are...
Hey, John. Dropping by to say Happy New Year! Hope you come back after your blogiday.
-Roy
Maybe I can tempt Dr C out of hiding with this.
I passed one of the medical secretaries’ offices today and on the door she has a large sign saying “Consultant Secretary”. Not Consultant ’ Secretary, or Consultant ’ s secretary or Consultants ’ secretary or even Secretary to the Consultant(s). What next, Consultant Porters, Consultant domestic assistants? (She wears a large pink hat with lots of gold braid too)
LOL @ consultant secretary! what ever next!
D'ye know,
I thought nurses and doctors were meant to fall madly in love with each other and that hospitals were places where the sexual tension needle flew off the scale. Instead you're all flinging mud at each other. Is it a new sport? Am I subscribing to an outdated stereotype? Is the lurv doctor still out there somewhere and is Matron making grown men gasp with longing as she marches towards them in her 80 denier stockings?
Seriously guys if the health service is going to survive, you're all going to have to stick together and not fight each other. Save your mud for those who really deserve it.
Damn, got the word verification wrong again..think I might need glasses..
196 comments without further blogging...so what incentive is there for him to return?
I know, hes a man to keep his fans waiting!
Julie,
It’s only a few medics, (like Angry Medic for instance, although he's not a medic yet thank god only a wet behind the ears gods gift to the medical profession Cambridge student with an ego the size of wales), who have got their stethoscopes stuck so far up their own bums that they burst their own eardrums every time they fart, that spoil it for the rest of us.
Generally Docs and nurses get on just fine.
Someone needs to get his punctuation right.
Plus that comment made no sense at ALL.
PLUS ego? What ego? Have you even read his blog?
Seems like you're challenged in more ways than one.
Anonymous @ 3:36 if Genitally challenged’s post make no sense at ALL then you seem to have made sense of it without too much difficulty. Is that because you are a super intelligent member of the medical profession too? As for ego if you are a medic then you would know all about that. I don’t know about egos but casting aspersions on the size of another’s testicles and suggesting that he or she has no sex life strikes me as a pretty arrogant thing to suggest. Or is that just you boys being boys?
Rather than picking on the straw man of punctuation and syntax why don’t you go and read Angry medics repost to what was presumably an ironic if provocative jest on the part of genitally challenged,
And, (Oh did I just start a sentence with and), every one knows that any Cambridge educated medic thinks their God’s gift. We once had one over here who thought he owned the place. Actually he might have been a relative of Major Jeffery so maybe he did ☺ (Did I get all my commas, in the . right, place, Sir??)
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