Thursday, February 07, 2008

Dr Chisholm and Dr Fradd are honourable men



I idly Googled Concordia Health and Melbourne Grove Surgery and up popped this from the East Dulwich Forum, where people are discussing which general practice would recommend:
Well - I would definitely NOT recommend Melbourne Grove Surgery or its sister practice - Parkside Medical Centre (at Camberwell Green). Unfortunately they are both run by a company - Concordia Health, and their stated policy is that everyone must have a nurse appointment first. If you request a Dr's appointment, the best you will get is a booked telephone appointment with a nurse first!!

I have heard that there are massive problems at these practices due to the way that Concordia are running the practices. There have been articles in Southwark News and the medical press in recent weeks exposing the way they are running the practices.

FHR, the Gardens and Nunhead Grove are far superior practices.
It is all here. Take a look round the forum.

Is it true? Certainly not. No compassionate doctor would do this, so it can't be true. A company run by two revered ex-BMA negotiators saying that a patient cannot see a doctor without a nurse's permission? Not possible. Chisholm and Fradd are compassionate men. They are not in this for the money. There is nothing on the Melbourne Grove website saying that you do not have direct access to a doctor, and I am sure the doctors there are honest and hard working. They would not indulge in fraudulent misrepresentation.

I don't believe a word of it.

What does the local paper, the Southwark News, say:
A private company which has taken over two of the borough’s medical centres may lay off GPs so ‘more patients can be seen’. Concordia Health took over the running of Parkside Medical Centre in Camberwell and Melbourne Grove Medical Practice in East Dulwich from the PCT in July 2006 and told the 'News' that it set out to ‘improve the speed of patient access through a restructuring of its skills mix.’

But a document leaked to the 'News' this week claimed that GPs were being replaced with nurses.

Concordia was furious that the leak had made its way into the public domain, with Medical Director and Chairman, Dr Simon Fradd telling the ‘News’: "You have been passed highly sensitive, commercial-in-confidence information which is strictly between the company and its employees at this stage. No decisions have been taken and staff are being involved in planning presently."

Dr Fradd confirmed that ‘restructuring’ was taking place but no decisions had been made on redundancies: "Plans potentially involve a partial restructuring, the details of which are yet to be defined. We remain hopeful that no individuals will be made redundant."

The 'redundancy rationale' is being proposed to increase the number of patients by employing nurses. Dr Fradd continued: "We will have achieved, after the possible restructure, a 25 per cent increase in the availability of prescribing appointments per patient, compared to the practices we inherited.”

Dr Jane Fryer, Southwark’s Health and Social Care Medical Director, said: "We have now met with Concordia Health, who have given their assurance that delivering the highest and safest quality of care to their patients is their first priority. We will continue to monitor the situation and meet with Concordia Health to make sure that this remains the case."
Bloody journalists. They love slagging of doctors. How dare they suggest that Simon is unprincipled or that he is trading on his BMA experience to undermine family doctors so that his company can make a fast buck. Outrageous. He is not like that. He used to be one of my representatives on the BMA. He has devoted his life to improving patient care and the lot of the family doctor. He is an honourable man and a very clever man. He is one of my heroes. He has even invented a new sort of consultation with a doctor. He calls it "a prescribing appointment." The layman might say this is duplicitous flummery. It is not. Obviously, a "prescribing appointment" means an appointment with someone who is properly trained to prescribe. Someone who has been to medical school and spent five years learning about patient care. A doctor. Like Simon. Simon is a doctor. He would never do anything to restrict patients' access to their GP.

I can understand Simon's anger that a newspaper should reveal
"highly sensitive, commercial-in-confidence information which is strictly between the company and its employees at this stage."
Leave the poor man in peace. The whole profession is behind you, Simon. We know you will get it right.

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21 Comments:

Blogger Am Ang Zhang said...

Watch out for the Knighthoods. Not you, Dr Crippen, Dr Chisholm and Dr Fradd.

The Cockroach Catcher

Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:49:00 AM  
Blogger Henry North London said...

If hes such an honourable man why is it that I feel like hounding him with a meat cleaver shouting traitor?

Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:09:00 AM  
Anonymous A. N. Other-Doc said...

The NHS Newspeak:

Skills mix = "The doctor won't see you now.... or ever if he can help it."

Bloody disgrace. If the GMC were not the bunch of cowed Nulabour apparatchiks that they have become then some questions relating to registration of the individuals concerned would be asked.

Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:20:00 AM  
Anonymous E said...

As an aside but I thought I would share this with you.

I heard a nurse in A&E say this morning that CADMU (clinical and decision making unit, short stay ward behind A&E to you) had a patient on their CLOCK.

Not their ward, or books, or in their care but on their clock. Makes you think.

Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Long Term Listener said...

From:
http://www.healthdemocracy.org.uk/healthdemocracy.org.uk/HealthPolicy/GovernmentPolicy/NationalPlanNHS/Patient%20and%20Public%20Involvement%20in%20Health/Sources.htm

Contract choice 'a travesty'. A patient involved in the decision to award contracts to run two practices in south London to Concordia Health has labelled the process a "travesty". Martin Saunders, a member of Southwark patient and public involvement forum and a patient at one of the practices, said his views were ignored and his involvement had been "tokenism". He said: "It was a travesty. It was so scary the way it was done. They were very nice people but you could tell there was a hidden agenda." Southwark PCT chose Concordia Health, whose directors include former GPC negotiators Dr John Chisholm and Dr Simon Fradd, to run the Melbourne Grove and Parkside practices. The decision not to award the contracts to salaried GPs already running the practices has caused controversy. Summary by Keep our NHS Public of Pulse 12 May 2006

Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:30:00 AM  
Anonymous NI GP said...

I presume it won't be any of the medical directors holding clinical responsibility for these "prescribing consultations" but some poor GP or locum who needs to work in such a nonsense in order to pay his mortgage. Somewhere in his job description there is no doubt the phrase "supervising Nurse Practitioners". It would be interesting to get an MPS/MDU perspective on such healthcare provision.

I also wonder if, even in access terms, it will improve the situation. I am not as anti NP as Dr C. I still work in Out of Hours where I now often work as a single doctor alongside First Care Practitioners (nurses with a further course) and I deal with patients at four to five times the rate they do, because they are operating under the control of their computerised protocol and cannot deviate from the labyrinthine series of questions they are instructed to ask.

I wonder what the actual consultation times for the various parts of the skill mix will turn out to be in Melbourne Grove.

Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Long Term Listener said...

On the value of a logo re the NHS logo on Concorida Health's website:-

"Government accused of selling off NHS brand. The Government has been accused of "selling off" the NHS brand, after it emerged that a German parcel company has been given the right to use the blue and white logo. A private consortium, headed by DHL, the delivery company, now holds a licence "for use of the NHS marks". It was granted by the Department of Health, as part of the consortium's £1.6 billion, 10-year contract to supply healthcare products to hospitals and GP surgeries around Britain. According to a report issued by the Department of Health in 2005, the NHS logo "should be the equivalent of a quality 'kite-mark' - reassuring patients about the standards and safeguards". The department spent £330,000 last year to make sure that the NHS logo was used "correctly". The logo is now emblazoned across the consortium's delivery vehicles and letterheads, and the service has been named "NHS Supply Chain". Patients' groups and NHS workers' representatives have reacted with anger. Geoff Martin, the director of campaigns for the Health Emergency pressure group, said: "The Government is giving this company the opportunity to exploit public loyalty to the NHS brand, regardless of that company's track record and profit motives. It stinks." A spokesman for Unison, the public workers' union, described the sale as "symbolic". "It devalues the NHS as a whole. The NHS has a world-class reputation that has been earned over many years. Its logo is known and respected and should not be 'sold off' to a private company to use as its own." Summary by Keep our NHS Public of Telegraph 2 January 2007"

From http://www.healthdemocracy.org.uk/healthdemocracy.org.uk/HealthPolicy/GovernmentPolicy/PrivateSectorInvolvement/Sources.htm

Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Long Term Listener said...

And on the quality issues:-
"More than half of practices run by private companies score below the England average in the quality framework, according to a GP survey.
Of the 30 practices run by private providers during 2006/7, 16 were below the England average score of 954 points.

Across all practices run by private providers during 2006/7 the average score was 922, 3 per cent below the England average.

Last month GP reported that PCT-run practices averaged 810. Among the practices were some with particularly low scores, including the Chilvers McCrea-run Brighton Homeless Healthcare Centre with a score of 752 and Intra Health’s Chiltern Hills Medical Practice, Dunstable, Bedfordshire, on 800.

Other poor performers included Concordia’s Parkside and Melbourne Grove medical practices, both in Southwark, south-east London and on 803 and 828 respectively."

Concordia's response:
"Concordia Health, which is run by joint architects of the 2004 GMS contract Drs Simon Fradd and John Chisholm, took over the Parkside and Melbourne Park practices in July 2006.

Dr Fradd said: ‘We had a lot of catching up to do. Basics were not in place, such as no flu vaccines had been ordered.’

He denied that employing salaried GPs acts as a quality framework disincentive, an argument used to explain low scores in PCT-run practices.

‘To be honest, you don’t need GPs for the quality framework. It is not a GP function, most of it is administrative and nursing.’
"

http://www.healthcarerepublic.com/news/GP/LatestNews/772950/Exclusive-Private-firms-score-less-quality-points

In summery - I shall tell you what my 12 year old son said when I ran through what was happening ..one word which I thought summed it all up and by all I mean these discussions around Concordia, the logo etc. "Double crossing" he said. Too sodding right.

Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Long Term Listener said...

My Bad - "summary"

Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ah, irony. How many people will get it?

Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:44:00 AM  
Blogger The Shrink said...

My, how the wayward doctors come back to haunt us.

Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Viz. the NHS Logo:

We regularly get e-mails from the PCT in which 980k of the 1Mb document is the logo! Sums up the current NHS. 98% image/flannel and 2% substance

Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Dr Crippen,
Are you aware of Keep Our NHS Public? if not please visit www.keepournhspublic.com and join as we need all the help we can get to stop the destruction of the NHS by creeping privatisation. Wendy Savage

Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:56:00 PM  
Anonymous e said...

The future may not be orange it may not even be Concordia health, but it might be Virgin.

http://www.virginhealthcare.net/

Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Dr Snuggles said...

Simon Fradd? None other than laughing boy himself!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=432882&in_page_id=1770

Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Long Term Listener said...

Oh Buggeration..missed this gem of a talk. Did anyone go??

"Entrepreneurial models of primary care"
"The way that health care is delivered will change greatly in the next few years with particular emphasis on the organisation of primary care.

Dr Sam Everington, Dr Simon Fradd and Dr Tim Richardson will each talk about their own entrepreneurial models of primary care. Professor David Colin-Thomé will facilitate questions and debate after the presentations. Non-executives and chairs of both acute trusts and PCTs will be interested to hear about these three different models.



http://www.kingsfund.org.uk/leadership/board_leadership_programme/programme_of_events/entrepreneurial.html

Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:58:00 PM  
Blogger Am Ang Zhang said...

I gather on the grapevine that some supermarkets are in the process of setting up machines so that mothers can answer questionnaires about their offspring’s ADHD symptoms, put in their credit card and get Stimulants dispensed. There will be no need to even see the nurse at the surgeries of Dr Chisholm and Dr Fradd. Clients (not patients) will be very happy. Of course the highest fingerprinting technology would be used to prevent abuse. There is no award for guessing which supermarket would be awarded the contract. I am going to read Huxley’s Brave New World again.

The Cockroach Catcher

Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:48:00 PM  
Anonymous nhsPenPusher said...

The DHL deal has many worrying aspects. The use of the NHS logo however, is not one of them. Supply Chain is efectively the privatisation of NHS Logistics, who deliver supplies to Trusts. The organisation is not public facing, and has nothing whatsoever to do with patient care.

The merits of the deal done with DHL and Novartis (the other partner) are certainly debatable, but for patient groups to "react with anger" is absurd.

Friday, February 08, 2008 1:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes - it's funny how the very two doctors, who were BMA negotiators during the new GP contract, teamed up and created a private company to run General Practices. I suspect you are right: that it's because they are so worried about the future of patient care ...

Just a shame the Southwark Patients Advocacy forum, Southwark News, and various blogs (which have been watching the developments at Concordia's practices) don't see it that way ...

Ah well, maybe I shouldn't grumble that Concordia Health are allowing all those people who wanted to play doctors and nurses when they were youngsters to live out their fantasies now. The receptionist at Melbourne Grove practice does my ECG and I feel lucky to get a 'prescribing appointment' with an individual who knows what my problem is before I answer any of her questions. I always thought clinical acumen was over-rated.

Tuesday, February 12, 2008 5:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Doctor Melbourne said...

hi,
im a Doctor Melbourne The receptionist at Melbourne Grove practice does ECG and I feel too lucky to get a 'prescribing appointment' with an individual who knows what my problem is before I answer any of her questions yes that was us doctor try the best of us...

Thursday, October 09, 2008 3:37:00 AM  
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