Saturday, May 24, 2008

How NOT to stop smoking



As readers of NHS BLOG DOCTOR will be only too well aware, I am a curmudgeonly, cantankerous old bugger at times. There is nothing more likely to reduce me to rage than a patient leaving a chitty from a “health care professional” instructing me to prescribe nicotine substitutes. Lots of reasons for my anger.  First and foremost, I am not going to be told what to do by an unqualified HCP. Secondly, most HCPs are not allowed to prescribe, and for good reason, and the ones who are so allowed are dangerous. The way things are going soon they will all be allowed to prescribe independently. So be it. I will not be responsible for their actions - and don’t say I didn’t warn you about the dangers.  Thirdly, I object to the taxpayer having to underwrite the substantial cost of nicotine substitutes. I think it is an outrage that they are available on prescription.

Fourthly, I used to smoke. It’s a long time ago now, but I still remember it, occasionally fondly. Life long non-smokers do not understand the pleasures of smoking. To them it is a filthy habit with no mitigating features. We ex-smokers know better. It is a filthy habit but, boy, the pleasure of that cigarette at the end of the meal... but enough of that! Suffice it to say that I know what smokers who genuinely want to give up are going through. I also know that no smoker will give up until they decide they want to.  All the nicotine substitutes are presented by Big Pharma as an instant, magic answer. Pop a piece of Nicorette in your mouth and you will never want a cigarette again. It is not like that. You have to genuinely want to stop.

I formulated my own psychological strategy to stop smoking, and I use it regularly to help patients. I will not go through it again now, but may I humbly suggest that any smoker who really wants to stop should try:
The Crippen Stop Smoking in 28 days Plan.
It works and it is free.

But back to the nurses, pharmacists and HCPs who give patients chitties telling me to prescribe various nicotine substitutes. I tear the chitties up and throw them away. If patients want a prescription from me, they have to see me. That makes them cross. Tough. if they won't see me, they can buy their own substitutes and save the taxpayer some money. When they do see me, if they are amenable, I take them through the Stop Smoking in 28 days Plan. If they do not want to do it that way, but have their own plan, that is fine. I will do my best to help them. But if they have no plan and think they can solve the problem by slapping on a nicotine patch, I do not prescribe. They can buy them themselves. Most of these people will end up with the patch or the gum and continue smoking as well.

I have never prescribed Zyban or Champix and I never will. Using this sort of medication is not the right way to stop smoking. Even if it worked, and it does not, I have always worried about dangerous side effects, particularly with Champix. I was therefore pleased to find that the Drugs and Therapeutics Bulletin (a non-promotional, no-advertising-accepted pharmacology journal) has grave reservations about Champix. The article is still in copyright so, sorry, you will have to pay to look. Fortunately, there is an excellent review of the problems with Champix at Pharmalot

It it not just the Drugs and Therapeutics Bulletin that has reservations.  It gets worse:


First, we’re told we can’t fly our planes if we’re also using Champix to quit smoking. Now, we can’t drive our rigs, either. The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration has issued a warning that advises medical examiners “to not qualify anyone currently using this medication for commercial motor vehicle licenses,” according to The Wall Street Journal. The move follows a study by the Institute of Safe Medication Practices that found a host of side effects linked to Pfizer’s quit-smoking pill
  • serious accidents and falls
  • potentially lethal cardiac rhythm disturbances
  • severe skin reactions
  • acute myocardial infarction
  • seizures
  • diabetes
  • psychosis
  • aggression
  • suicide.
In all the study, linked Champix to nearly 1,000 serious adverse events. Just hours after the study was released two days ago, the Federal Aviation Administration banned the drug for pilots and air traffic controllers. So far, though, the FDA, which previously issued health advisories about psychiatric side effects, such as suicide, hasn’t taken any additional action. (full report
here)
So ask yourself this. Do you want to take a drug that the Federal Aviation Administration has deemed to be too dangerous for pilots and air traffic controllers?

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26 Comments:

Anonymous Bob Dowling said...

Do you want to take a drug that the Federal Aviation Administration has deemed to be too dangerous for pilots and air traffic controllers?

Beer. Wine. Spirits. Yes, please.

I believe the FAA (and our CAA) have an absolute ban on pilots taking any alcohol 48 hours prior to flight.

Cough mixture has warnings about it causing drowsiness and not to be used in conjunction with heavy machinery (presumably including aircraft).

I'm in complete agreement with you not wanting patients taking prescription drugs without a consultation with a doctor, but I think you're straying a bit too far in suggesting that we should avoid certain drugs because they're banned for pilots.

Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:15:00 PM  
Blogger Dr John Crippen said...

I stray all the time Bob...

...but it's an unpleasant drug of uncertain efficacy, pitched at the "can I have a quick fix brigade" without regard to the risk of serious side effects.

Would you take it?


JOhn

Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far as I am aware, "Zyban" is actually the anti-depressant bupropion, which is marketed under the name "Wellbutrin" in the USA, but not here? In which case, given the potential side effects, I can't imagine chucking it at someone who isn't depressed, especially as it's reputed to have a stimulant effect, to be all that wise? (Presumably one of the many reasons you don't prescribe it)...

Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Will said...

I took Chantix (as it's know here in the States) for about a month. I could barely sleep and, after taking the pill, it felt like a hole was burned into the pit of my stomach. Eventually, I decided that the nicotine withdrawal would be easier.

It did work. When I was on it, I didn't care if I didn't smoke. But the week 2 dosage was too much.

Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Ella said...

My husband was a really heavy smoker for years-roll-ups mostly. One day he was going up a hill and felt short of breath-at the age of 22. He pulled out his tobacco pouch, threw it away, and that was that. He never smoked ever again, and that was almost ten years ago. I asked him how he did that, as so many people seem to have a hard time, and he just said "willpower". He couldn't believe that at his age he was short of breath walking up a hill, realised it was damaging his health, and said "no" straight away and that was that. It would be good if we could clone this gene and insert it into people....

Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Matron said...

I am a curmudgeonly, cantankerous old bugger at times only AT times eh.

There are already independent prescribers, in fact where i work, they are 76% safer than medical prescribers - we have a limited drug formulary (neonates) and work to dose/kg - you'd be horrified at the mistakes made by Medical Practitioners in comparison to the Nurse Prescribers

Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Matron said...

I thoroughly agree with you about seeing the person before issuing a prescription, after all its your responsibility/license to practice.

Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:32:00 AM  
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Anonymous the a&e charge nurse said...

Dr Crippen - I thought the evidence (for successful smoking cessation) suggested that NRP + 'behavioural counselling' tended to produce the best results, and by a some margin ?
http://www.gp-training.net/protocols/smoking/facts.htm

There are very few (absolute) rules in our home, but NOT smoking is one of them - sex, dabbling in drugs, rock festivals, etc, are all but grist to the mill, but nicotine addiction still holds great fears for me.

Both of my parents smoked (I never have) and apart from disliking the smell, especially first thing in the morning, the affects of smoking finally had a dire effect on their health at the end of their lives.

It is often said that giving up smoking is probably the single most important change anybody can make to improve their health - does it really matter how this goal is achieved ?

Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:57:00 AM  
Blogger Garth Marenghi said...

http://ferretfancier.blogspot.com/2008/05/utterfraud-and-times-censorship.html

There are so many drugs of dubious benefit being dishonestly peddled by big pharma.

Whether it be nicotine replacement, anti-depressants, prophylactic LMWH, they all have minimal benefit at best and some very serious side effects.

Couldn't agree with you more on the smoking, all the treatments are a waste of time. There is no substitute for a genuine desire to give up.

Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:59:00 AM  
Blogger Dr John Crippen said...

There are already independent prescribers, in fact where i work, they are 76% safer than medical prescribers - we have a limited drug formulary (neonates) and work to dose/kg - you'd be horrified at the mistakes made by Medical Practitioners in comparison to the Nurse Prescribers

Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:27:00 AM

+++++

MATRON - sure, but you miss the point. Prescribing by protocol works well until you are dealing with the unexpected. Bit like autopilots - but you still need a pilot. Do doctors make mistakes? Of course they do. Comes with the territory. But you don't improve the mistake rate by handing over to people whose only qualification is the ability to read a protocol


John

Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:24:00 AM  
Blogger Dr John Crippen said...

Dr Crippen - I thought the evidence (for successful smoking cessation) suggested that NRP + 'behavioural counselling' tended to produce the best results, and by a some margin ?
http://www.gp-training.net/protocols/smoking/facts.htm

+++++

May well be true. But I am still not going to prescribe for them.


John

Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:25:00 AM  
Blogger Oliver said...

Doctor,

I am going to take up smoking so I can have a go at your 28 day stop smoking plan.
A colleague of mine who was giving up smoking with the gum always used to say he was going to have to 'go back on the fags to get off the gum'

Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:38:00 AM  
Blogger MrHunnybun said...

I dispense hundreds of pounds worth of NRT every single day. It is very frustrating as many of these patients have absolutely no intention of giving up. Many have just been given the prescription by their well-meaning GP or Nurse Practitioner.

Where do these end up? Well, some in the back of the cupboard but I've found several of my patients selling them on Ebay. NRT patches are roughly £15 a box. Most of my patients are exempt from prescription charges for one reason or another. So, sell them for £10 a box on Ebay and get a nice NHS subsidised extra income.


I suspect some of matron's friends are responsible for prescriptions I get that say "Amoxicillin 125/5ml. Take 4.375ml TDS"

Good luck with measuring out that 0.005ml with an oral syringe.

Personally I get way more problems with non-GP prescribers. Peculiar doses (as with the Amoxicillin). Incorrect regimes (QDS Amoxicillin, TDS Erythromycin, Nystatin Suspension 5ml QDS!.Classic one last week- Propranolol 10mg tds as migraine prophylaxis for a child on Salbutamol, BDP and Salmeterol!

Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:15:00 PM  
Blogger Fat Lazy Male Nurse said...

'First and foremost, I am not going to be told what to do by an unqualified HCP. Secondly, most HCPs are not allowed to prescribe, and for good reason, and the ones who are so allowed are dangerous.'
Surely by being an HCP you are qualified, otherwise you would be an HCA (Health Care Amateur!) - but that would play into your hands.
Any evidence to show that non-medical prescribers are dangerous, or is this more hyperbole?

Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I object to the taxpayer having to underwrite the substantial cost of nicotine substitutes. I think it is an outrage that they are available on prescription."

I also think that it's an outrage that the taxpayer has to underwite the cost, but that's the whole problem with having a cash-cow nationalised health service. That's why I support "Doctors for Reform". The sooner a social insurance health service is introduced the better. Until then the likees of Crippen will have to put up with the current system. At least they can do so in luxury.........again funded by the taxpayer!

Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What Matron means is that the "many years experienced noctors" prescribe better than the new SHOs who've been doing neonates for a few weeks.

Since these neontal noctors (in my experience quite good) are working day in day out with these drugs, if they got ANY prescriptions wrong that would be disgraceful.

So stop bragging - you can follow a protocol, devised by doctors, from research by doctors, and allowed by doctors? SO FUCKING WHAT? So could call centre operatives.... NICU is easy stuff. Just follow the protocol.... if it were difficult you wouldn't be doing it.

Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

completely unreasonable and arrogant, pts who receive nicotine replacement rx's are tax payers too ..
Cant believe your attitude .. btw .. Id rather a ' madwife ' delivered my baby then a GP !!!

Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:53:00 PM  
Blogger Fat Lazy Male Nurse said...

Mr Hunnybun, what really terrifies me in respect of non-medical prescribing is the thought of pharmacists prescribing. As far as I'm aware there is little in pharmacist training relating to physical assessment, diagnostics, and management of illness. This would appear to be borne out by the number of patients I see with 'infected' insect bites that are histamine reactions, but the patients have been terrified into attending my practice by pharmacists with tales of ascending infection and septicaemia.

Sunday, May 25, 2008 9:13:00 PM  
Anonymous PureAgeless said...

I have never smoked but what you say makes sense. I have dieted a lot and the same applies in that I cannot do it because some one else tells me I need to, the will has to come from inside me.

Monday, May 26, 2008 8:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a Health Care Assistant in a GP surgery.. I do the smoking cessation prescribing NRT (then getting the GP to sign to scripts) and I think it's an utter waste of time and money. I tell the patients that NRT is not magic but they still come back and complain it hasn't worked..

I do it because it's what I've been instructed to do by my manager. The things we now have to do like asking the sexual orientation of the patient in an extremely long monitoring form is ridiculous - this form is from the PCT who are telling our manager that we don't get paid unless this is completed thoroughly.

So you can see it's not done because anyone at the surgery cares, it's all for points and points mean prizes.

BTW I do not prescribe Champix.. I was asked to do the course to enable me to do so but refused as I do not feel I am in any way qualified for this.

Monday, May 26, 2008 8:44:00 PM  
Blogger Valda Redfern said...

I can only agree with Dr Crippen that it is useless to try to stop smoking unless you actually want to stop. I also agree that there are good reasons for not wanting to stop. I enjoyed smoking very much. It was a panacea - relaxed me when I was tense, kept me alert when I was tired, gave me something to do when I was bored, kept me from minding hunger or cold, and let me start every day on a high. I did stop, over fifteen years ago, because I realised that smoking was bad for my heath (note: *my* health, not the nation's).

But why does anyone need NHS counseling? Stopping is not hard: after all, you don't have to do anything, as Allen Carr pointed out in his book (which, excellent though it is, also only works if for those who already want to stop).

Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Old Codger said...

Zyban does work or perhaps, as I have no medical training and my experience relates to me alone, I should say can work.

I smoked for over 50 years. Tried stopping a number of times without success. Even paid for Nicorette, which i stopped when I realised I was chewing and smoking at the same time. Trouble was I enjoyed it, didn't really want to stop.

A little over five years ago my doctor had another go. "Why don't you see our 'stop smoking' nurse. She has some pills that will make cigarettes taste awful. Wasn't impressed by the nurse but I agreed to try. The night before the selected "stop smoking day" I realised I did not really want the next cigarette. Completed the course of Zyban without any cigarettes or any serious withdrawal symptoms, if there had been I would have smoked. Attended last appointment and was asked to blow into the tube. "What for, to see if I am telling the truth?" "Errrrrrr, yes". It was over two weeks before I really wanted a cigarette. I resisted and, surprisingly, forgot about it very quickly. I still want a cigarette occasionally but the desire quickly passes.

Throughout the stop smoking period, and for a few months afterwards, I had upwards of three hundred cigarettes in the house. I also collected a mate for a pub meeting weekly and encouraged him to continue smoking in my car (it didn't bother me at all). Eventually I disposed of the cigarettes by giving him a packet each Friday when I collected him.

Don't understand how I managed to give up but I did and I give the credit to Zyban.

I maintain that I did not have any adverse side effects, my Wife disagrees.

Sunday, June 01, 2008 7:36:00 PM  
Blogger ricky said...

Smoking is a really bad habit and it should be stopped. I have never been addicted to tobacco, but I know how it’s dangerous and how it can effect to ones’ body. Those who want to quite smoking they can use chantix, I think it’s a good one. For more information please go to http://www.chantixhome.com

Monday, June 09, 2008 10:41:00 AM  
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Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:34:00 AM  
Anonymous chantix said...

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Tuesday, October 07, 2008 6:28:00 AM  

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