Something wicked this way comes : getting shut of the "crumble"

The recent publicity surrounding a patient’s “right” to die at home has left experienced family doctors perplexed. What is going on? A myth has grow-up that so called “terminal care”, sorry, sorry, “continuing care” is a mystical science that can only be practised in hospices by Macmillan nurses.
One of the most fundamental roles of the family doctor is to care for dying patients in the home environment. All the older partners in my practice are highly experienced in this task, aided by our excellent team of district nurses. As I have said many times before, the pure physical medical side of terminal care is rarely challenging. The mental and emotional side is very challenging and, as I get older, I find it more and more of a strain. (see Removing death from Life)
God, how I hate hospices. How I hate palliative care doctors. How, in particular, I hate Macmillan nurses.
I am not being provocative. I yield to none in my admiration for the late, great Dame Cicely Saunders. As I have said before, I put her up there with Semmelweiss. She devoted her life to showing us how to treat the discomfort of dying pre-emptively. Semmelweiss taught us to wash our hands before doing vaginal examinations. We learnt both lessons. They are obvious now as, in retrospect, was the development of the wheel.
I still truly hate the whole of the terminal care industry brigade but not perhaps in the way you may think. You see, I hate death and, even more, I hate the process of death. I hate dying. It is a wretched bloody business. I hate the way hospices, and the palliative care doctors and the Macmillan nurses steal death from life. They attempt to pretty up the process of dying into some sort of clap-happy learning experience, there to be shared by all the family. I had lunch with a good friend yesterday who told me that his father in law threw a Macmillan nurse out of the house after her appalling opening gambit on her first visit of “How do you feel about dying”. What a question! What an arsehole!
Hospices are a last resort for people who have no family and for the few (very few in my practice) who cannot be managed at home. God preserve me from this, written by a patient dying in a hospice:
Now I am looking out of the window at a beautiful, little, vaguely Japanese, garden belonging to the hospice with squirrels and gulls. It has been snowing. Some day. Somewhere along the way I acquired a morphine driver pump (*), a handfull of pills a day and fulltime oxygen mask. I haven’t an idea how I got here, really. I’m not sure who I am, but I think, someone different. This has been the most difficult few paragraphs I have ever written bar none ever, despite not having any emotional content.Some may recognise the writing. I have quoted it before. The same writer, a few weeks before her death, wrote of the unreal world of the hospice:
In the hospice a patient would have to be much worse than just badly behaved to get any opprobrium. Probably to provoke the staff a patient would have to be doing something harmful to another patient. And maybe in extreme cases not even then. Your status as a responsible adult is held in suspense. It isn’t fully revoked but it isn’t in place either. The relationship between the carers, helpers and domestics and the patients is odd. Not odd as in being unexplicable, but odd as in being outside of the norm of everyday life.As many will know, the writer was the late Christian Jago, and all that she wrote is still preserved at auspicious dragon. You can keep your squirrels and your gulls and your Japanese gardens. I don’t want any of it, and I do not think Christian did either. I try to protect my patients from the worst of this nonsense.
The government is now trading on your deepest, darkest emotions and fears. So many wish to buy into the Macmillan nurse myth to protect themselves from the horror of dying. You think the government is talking about better home care for cancer patients. I am all in favour of that, but that is not what this is about. The media has also been taken in. It too believes the government is talking about cancer care. See today’s spread in the Times. I warn you now that the government has a hidden agenda in announcing its recent policy statements about your “right” to die at home.
The real but hidden agenda is ominous. It is about cost cutting. About further reductions in NHS care. The government is marching fraudulently under the banner of cancer care. This is not about cancer care. This is about kicking granny out of hospital. It is about the large number of old, frail people with multiple medical diagnoses; a bit of prostate cancer; a bit of breast cancer; a bit of COPD; a bit of arthritis; a bit of heart failure; a bit of dementia; the residual weakness and slurred speech of an old stroke and so on and so forth. These people are all dying. They can be kept comfortable (if they are lucky) but they are beyond medical salvage. These people are “cluttering up” medical wards, surgical wards, and orthopaedic wards. Because they do not have precise single diagnoses like “bowel cancer” the hospices show little interest and even if they did, they do not have the beds. So instead, too ill to go home, too ill for a nursing home (even if there were a bed available) they are kept in hospital, always at the far end of the ward, as far as possible from the nursing station. If your relative is in hospital you can tell when the doctors and nurses have lost interest. Interest in a patient is proportional to the reciprocal of the distance of the bed from the nursing station. Hospital doctors call these patients “crumble”. They are all in God’s waiting room.
We used to call it “crumble” when I was a hospital doctor. “Crumble” is a derogatory word for a group of patients who have nothing acutely wrong with them, but not much right with them either. (source)The government hates them. They are bed blockers. They are expensive. They are stopping the hospitals from hitting targets. We have an ageing population. With each day, their numbers grow larger. These are the people who are going to be given the “right” to die at home. Indeed, soon it will be their duty to die at home. The government is going to turf them out of hospital to free up medical beds. Doesn’t matter if they cannot walk and are faecally incontinent, they must have their “right” to die at home. These patients are “terminally ill” but not in the way the media understands. Too ill for nursing homes, these poor people still need round the clock nursing care, often for months on end. Nursing care that their elderly relatives cannot provide at home. Soon they will be sent home with a care “package” – a nursing auxiliary popping in for four hours a week.
You have been warned.
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52 Comments:
I seem to recall the palliative care doctors or somesuch pointing out that although most people say they'd like to die at home (which has been put forward as the motivation behind this move), when push comes to shove most people want to be in a hospital with all the big shiny toys and medical looking staff.
And certainly you see very many so called palliative cases rushed in on an acute medical take. Which isn't necessarily wrong because quite a few get better - just because you're going to die soonish doesn't mean you necessarily want to die right now of something treatable.
In my experience, people with predictable one diagnosis terminal illnesses (eg disemmintated bowel, breast, lung cancer) prefer to stay at home.
The difficulty is the people with unpredictable multi-system illness - the medical profession can't do much but has not formally thrown in the towel. These people tend to die in hospital when they would be better at home.
But - as I say - that is not what this is about. This is about sending old frail people with multi system illness home when they need intensive nursing care
John
I like the tone of this article. Most times you infuriate me but on this I'm nodding in agreement with almost everything you write.
Death isn't pretty. I've myself just watched someone very close die and choose to have my teenage children in to see their beloved grandparent. They were distressed but found it helpful that they got to say goodbye.
There is only one certainty in life. It cannot be ignored.
Most times you infuriate me
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Oh dear. Well, agreeing on this one is one of the most important things of all.
John
Agree withmost of this John. It can only get worse if we all give up drink, fags and cream cakes and live for an extra 10 years of slow decline.
I have always thought that my quality of life out weighed the quantity and quality for me involves alcohol and gream cakes!
I hope that when I am too decrepit to maintain the will to carry on the right to die at home will include the right to manage my own exit via a morphine prescription.
j
Mrs Dr Aust almost did a left turn into palliative care in her anaesthesia days, before going back to general medicine. Coming from an acute medicine B/G she was of the view that the point was to sort out (or at least prioritize) managing the multiple general medical problems well enough that the person could get out of hospital and die at home if it was at all possible. She used to tell me this was what most of the patients wanted. Of course, it would presumably take a lot of very good palliative care / general / acute physicians to make sure that it was done right, rather than half-cocked. Whether such folk (and /or the system to support them doing it right) are around... hmm.
The thing that ultimately put Mrs Dr A off palliative care was the overt religiosity of a lot of the hospice gang.
PS And GPs...! Apologies
Well, even though the media never acknowledges it, good family doctor still do most of the care of the dying. I could not do it full time. It's too stressful, too draining. It was easier when I was in my 20's because of course you did not relate in the same way to the (usually) older dying patient.
I'm an atheist - and I agree that to do palliative care all the time you either have to be deeply religious, or have a personality disorder. The former outweigh the latter, but there are plenty of the latter around, particularly amongst Macmillan nurses.
Dear old Dame Ciciely, God bless her, was of course a serious serious Christian
John
'The real but hidden agenda is ominous. It is about cost cutting. About further reductions in NHS care.'
Of course it is. The percentage of old people is going up, the percentage of working younger people is going down. The money is not available and never will be again. Next stop: 'Non-consensual' euthanasia.
ZT
I have to agree with the above comments. Many years ago I was an HCA in palliative care. After a while you begin to lose your soul. It's no wonder I chose Psych when I went to do my nurse training. You burn out very fast dealing with the dying.
As an aside, Coventry City council are closing 2 of their homes for people with Alzheimers.
Actions like this will only make the pressure of beds worse. I doubt anything will be done about it though. EMI isn't sexy services. no one cares.
Dr C: "God, how I hate hospices. How I hate palliative care doctors."
My FIL died in a hospice and I am certain that this was the best place for him. My MIL was not equipped to care for him at home. He had better pain relief and nursing care in the hospice. How you expect someone in their late 60's who knows nothing about nursing and cannot lift to care for someone at home is a bit beyond me!
Towards the end he was sedated, which was appropriate for him and I am not convinced that the local surgery could have provided this level of care.
In terms of what I would expect to receive from my current surgery - I am not convinced that they would offer any kind of continuity of care or pitch up when needed. They seem to think that everyone can get in the car and drive to the surgery!
Whilst I pretty much agree about hospices and would fight to keep anybody I cared about out of one, I must say I'm not so sure about crumblies staying in hospital. A few really need it. But hospital is a pretty awful place, there's no dignity, no privacy, you get woken up by the crash call next door at 3 am, it's disorientating for people with any level of dementia, your family get kicked out after three hours, the food is bad and, let's be honest, the smell often terrible too. And have I mentioned the hospital-acquired infections? No matter how many the comorbidities, anybody who can be got home to die with a little dignity should be allowed that. There are some very successful community outreach programmes, offering for example care for near-the-end COPD patients, and I think these need to be expanded upon. I'm not sure that's what the govt has in mind (in fact, it's probably not) but anything that helps people out of the hospital misery is a positive step, as is anything that pushes cash in that direction. The safety net will have to be that doctors will not allow unsafe discharges.
I'd check with your finanacial wizzards, but isn't care at home actually more expensive than care in a hospital?
I read this post with great interest because my mother was for many years the senior Night Sister at St Christopher’s Hospice, so my family knew Dame Cicely Saunders well. St Christopher’s had only been open a few years when my mother started working there so the modern hospice movement was very new in those days, and much ground-breaking work in pain relief and helping those with motor neurone disease was done there by Dame Cicely Saunders, Dame Albertine Winner (always referred to as “The Dame”) and the other doctors on the staff. At that time death was a taboo subject in this country, cancer was the “C” word, and many patients were never told what they were suffering from. Dr Saunders and St Christopher’s tried to change that.
Your comments on Macmillan nurses also struck a chord. I have a GP friend (now retired) who a number of years ago had to spend much of the Christmas period at the home of some patients. The married couple regretted having to keep calling him out to their only child who was dying from cancer but their Macmillan nurse was not available over the Christmas period. GP friend spent much time with this family and was with them when their child died on Boxing Day. The parents were so grateful for him having spent so much time with them, when he should have been at home with his own family, but he felt that it was the least that he could do. GP friend was somewhat bitter about the fact that the Macmillan nurse wasn’t there when the family needed her, but was absolutely fuming when said Macmillan nurse phoned him when the surgery opened after the Christmas break and said that she hoped he had followed her protocols. GP friend used some ripe language; I’ll leave you to imagine what he said.
There can be no doubt that there is a sneaky motive behind the Government “jumping on the bandwagon” of patient’s dying at home rather than in a hospital. However, for many there is no option but to go into care of some kind, and there are not enough beds in hospices for all those that need or want them, so some will undoubtedly end up in hospitals. What is the Government’s motive? It’s obvious. The hospices and Macmillan nurses are largely paid for out of charity donations made by the public in this country. If the “crumbles” can be removed from hospitals and their care provided by the charity sector in this country, then they will be less of a drain on the Exchequer.
This is yet another stealth tax on the people of this country no matter what kind of spin the Government may try to place on it. Having paid for the NHS we are going to be required to increasingly fund charities that were originally intended to be an alternative and in addition to the NHS rather than instead of it.
anonymous said...
I'd check with your finanacial wizzards, but isn't care at home actually more expensive than care in a hospital?
Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:25:00 PM
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Not if you only provide an auxiliary nurse for 4 hours a week
John
Hi Madsadgirl
I was a GP trainee in the Sydenham area (it was a while ago) and so went to St Christopher's quite a lot. I remember vividly being on call for the training practice and having a problem with analgesia with a terminally ill patient (I was very inexperienced then). I phoned St Christopher's for advice. Of course in those days, one spoke to the doctor not to nursey and, even though it was late at night, the duty doctor who answered said, "Hello, Dr Saunders"
She was perfectly lovely. A very very special person. I think I nearly hero worshipped her. She was deeply religious and I'm sure that was what kept her going, but she never (in my experience) rammed her religion down anyone's throat.
I did a terminal care job, and considered going into it permanently, but it was too stressful. I have no believe in an afterlife and most others who did the job did. the ones who didn't had personality disorders. I really believe that.
I don't really hate all Macmillan nurses but, with some exceptions, they are a difficult arrogant lot, often worse than madwives (and that's saying something) All the publicity they get which portrays them as superhuman people who can do no wrong has gone to their heads. I do not let them interfere with the medication I use on my patients. They don't know enough.
John
Dear Dr. Crippen,
Dying pain-free is very important to some patients, like my father, who did so in a Marie Curie hospice early this year, over 3 weeks.
In the last couple of weeks his pain management required increasing fentanyl prn, topped up with IV ketamine. He was comfortable but also cognitively all there until the last day. Could such hour-to-hour pain management and nursing care genuinely be provided well from a GP practice?
That nursing and medical care was on hand 24/7 in this time freed his family to spend quality time with him administering to his and our emotional and spiritual needs, instead of worrying about his pain or cleaning his bottom, which he would've hated. He died happy, saying that he'd been treated as an emperor by the dedicated staff.
Patient choice should be paramount, we agree, but whether the nursing and medical resources of a GP surgery can allow all patients to die well is dubious indeed.
Ion
I am glad your father and your family received the care you all wanted. That is by far the most important thing.
I don't really like discussing clinical details specifically, but you bring them up, so I will.
I am not a great fan of PRN medication in the care of the terminally ill. Fentanyl patches have their uses, but not as PRN medication. Other forms, like their lozenges, are in my experience of limited value.
I have not come across ketamine being used IV for palliation, though I have heard of it being used in syringe drivers.
I am not a big fan of sticking needles in the terminally ill at all. I find that it can mostly be avoided by planned use of a syringe driver s/c infusion.
Yes, we have Marie Curie nurses in the community, and it can be arranged for there to be one constantly present as and when necessary - subject to availability. Yes, we can do infusions, s/c, i/v whatever is required. Yes, we can do pretty much anything that is needed, and we have a well developed and well known system with the doctors and the district nurses. And, before you ask, the doctors ARE available 24/7 - we don't hand our terminal care over to NHS direct and, suprise suprise the Macmillan nurses only do telephone advice out of hours.
It is rare for our patients to die in hospices. Usually it is just the ones who have no family at all.
But the hospice is there for all who want it and choice is the most important thing. I am glad it worked for you
Not for me, though, please.
Do read this:
http://nhsblogdoc.blogspot.com/2006/08/removing-death-from-life.html
John
For anyone interested, there is a volume in the Wellcome Trust's series on "Witnesses to 20th Century Medicine" (essentially a transcript of people sitting in a room talking) about innovations in pain management, which features Dame Cicely, among others. It is a fascinating read.
Free download (NB 1.3 MB PDF) from here.
'This is about sending old frail people with multi system illness home when they need intensive nursing care'
you won't get that in most hospitals outside of ITU; and when does such a patient ever get into ITU?
mmm if I ever want to die at home I want to do it with a large gin and some diamorphine and go off in a nice little euphoric haze
At least Shipman had the right idea
His victims had the most painless deaths ever
..but of course Dr S didn't offer them the choice as to whether they wanted to go or not. Very poorly respectful of patient autonomy.
He was, however, by a long distance the most popular doctor in Hyde (mainly due to his sympathetic and caring manner with the elderly - I kid you not) and would have scored a million points on the Bacon-o-meter. One local I met told me people used to wait months or even years to get onto his list.
Sorry, all in rather poor taste.
PS Aldous Huxley rather famously chose to check out "under the influence" of LSD, as we're talking pharmaceuticals.
Hmm. I have mixed feelings on this one. One the one hand, my late grandfather died in St Josephs Hospice in Hackney. He was comfortable, relatively pain free (as pain free as someone with terminal gastric cancer can be) and well cared for. His last days were quiet, I used to sit with him and watch him breathing, listening to the 'whizz' of his syringe driver. A day of Cheyne Stoking and he was gone. The McMillan nurse was wonderful and used to ring my grandmother every now and then afterwards to see how she was. I think she did that for about a year.
On the other hand.....if it was me, I'd want a large gin and tonic and a massive dose of insulin. No regular turns, regular turns and burning lavender oil for me.
Looking at the labels of this post I felt justified in adding this here, given that I can't find a contact link elsewhere.
Still an arrogant cunt then John? Someone has to do the dirty job's. When was the last time you or any of your esteemed* (*money grabbing) actually washed a patient? Or cleaned them up after they had soiled themselves? Or washed their hair before they died? Or put their makeup on afterwards? So before you and your General practice colleagues lecture the wider world on the inadequacies of the nursing care especially the mcmillan teams ,dont you think it would be a better idea to show that you guys arn't a bunch of money grabbing fucktards who refuse to do nights and weekends?
Fuck off and die (hopefully cared for by a team of gp's obviously as caring as you are)
obviously a macmillan nurse with her paper hat out of shape from the sentiments expressed on this blog
Oh dear, oh dear, an attack from a man/women with limited vocabulary. Let me have your name and address and I will send you a thesaurus:
Anonymous said...
Still an arrogant cunt then John? Someone has to do the dirty job's. When was the last time you or any of your esteemed* (*money grabbing) actually washed a patient?
Oddly enough, I cleaned up some vomit only yesterday after a child threw up over me. But your point is good. I have never actually washed a patient in my life. Not part of my job.
Or cleaned them up after they had soiled themselves?
Oh, yes, I have done that a few times. No alternative on a home visit if no one else is there
Or washed their hair before they died? Or put their makeup on afterwards?
No. Never done that. Again, not part of my job. The district nurses do that.
So before you and your General practice colleagues lecture the wider world on the inadequacies of the nursing care especially the mcmillan teams ,
The nursing care my terminally ill patients get is absolutely wonderful, provided by our excellent team of District Nurses. One of the many many problems presented by Macmillan nurses is that they DO NOT DO NURSING CARE. They are too posh to wash patients. If they visit a patient (and that’s a big “if” these days – more often than not, they telephone) and the patient needs some nursing care, they don’t do it. They phone the district nurses and ask them to come in. My district nurses get really really pissed off with this.
dont you think it would be a better idea to show that you guys arn't a bunch of money grabbing fucktards who refuse to do nights and weekends?
I do do nights and weekends for any of my patients who are terminally ill. That is part of the service we provide. I do not any longer do nights and weekends to cater for the crazy demands of NHS abusers who are bringing the whole service to its knees with there ridiculous demands. I did do nights and weekends like that for approaching twenty years, and it nearly broke me. The worst problem was the abuse .... from people like you
Fuck off and die (hopefully cared for by a team of gp's obviously as caring as you are)
Oh, I shall be dying in due course, I hope not for a while; and when I do, if it is a process rather than an event, I shall be doing it at home, without the Macmilllan service and, as you suggest, with help from my medical and real nursing colleagues in the practice.
Why on earth are you so angry? I merely tell it as it is. If you are a Macmillan nurse yourself, then you need to get some counselling about your anger and then, when you have done that, you may consider changing to a job that involves real nursing care rather than one in which you get on everyone else's tits by telling them how to do their jobs.
John
Uhm, I hope you mean the Macmillan nurse is an arsehole, not your good friend's father-in-law.
Just before one of your many enemies tries to turn it against you, might be worth it to add a footnote ...
anonymous said...
Uhm, I hope you mean the Macmillan nurse is an arsehole, not your good friend's father-in-law.
Just before one of your many enemies tries to turn it against you, might be worth it to add a footnote ...
Friday, July 18, 2008 3:10:00 PM
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Enemies? Moi?
I had not thought it could be interpreted any other way.. but maybe you are right. I have tidied it up
JOhn
I'm glad to see that someone is actually writing down what Macmillan nurses DO. Sadly, from family experience I was shocked to discover that the answer is they DO very little. They talk, they advise and they tell others what to do. Where on earth did they get their halos from? Perhaps a Macmillan nurse would write something here justifying their status.
Disagree with you on hospices though.
I have seen a hospice once when I was a medical student (oh for the time to roll back and for me to have done accountancy)
It wasnt that great I suppose they are variable like all things, It depends on the "Funding" I hear that word with financial regularity from any NHS source these days
(oh for the time to roll back and for me to have done accountancy)
What sort of accountant, Henry? A biological one?? A career in number crunching seems somewhat diametrically opposed to one in medicine.
I was always good at mathematics
Number crunching isnt that far removed
I hate to say it, but I can hardly fault the NHS for choosing to concentrate its finite financial resources on patients who have some remaining hope of recovery. Effective palliative care is not cheap, wherever it's provided; it may be that it is simply not possible to provide it at an adequate level without compromising other services or raising the level of taxation higher than the public can tolerate, no matter what the next government does to improve financial efficiency.
One of the most depressing part of my job is attending the weekly MDT/community team meeting, where we "discuss" getting people with complex medical and nursing needs home or into continuing care. I have lost count of how many people have died on the medical unit (be it a ward or HDU) whilst waiting for social services and the PCTs to agree over costings.
I was always under the impression that a hospital bed with 24/7 trained nursing and medical cover must be more expensive than dying at home but it seems I am wrong. One of the most distasteful aspects of these meetings is discussing how long we think the patient will live for. I have seen patients who have been placed on the Liverpool Care Pathway survive for weeks whilst others last only for a few days.
Harder still is explaining to the families why their relative cannot go home/into a nursing facility because they need too much nursing (meaning either that it will be too expensive or the facility required is not local). I have mentioned before about patients with trachy's or NIPPV/BiPAP etc...there are very few nursing homes who can take these sort of patients due to the amount of care they require (suctioning etc). Very few families can take on this type of care even in the short term, although I have seen a few very brave souls who have tried. Often the patient cannot be transferred to a general medical ward as they would not get the amount of attention needed (28 beds with 3 trained staff is the norm in my neck of the woods). So they stay on HDU or get shuffled around the various HDU factions until ultimately the pressure from ITU gets too high and we have to "free up the bed" by transfering them to a general ward anyway.
"Oh, I shall be dying in due course, I hope not for a while; and when I do, if it is a process rather than an event, I shall be doing it at home, without the Macmillan service and, as you suggest, with help from my medical and real nursing colleagues in the practice."
Assuming your family is close at hand and will support you at home (cooking, washing, etc), of course.
I achieved the same result for one of my elderly relatives, but the burden on the family was sacrificial.
Great Job
interesting topic , I would like to read more on this topic and medical transcription.
It's a bit late in the debate I admit but I work for an older persons social work team in Greater London. I have a lot of contact with Palliative care teams and some of the big hospitals like STH and KCH. I also deal with a considerable number of 'terminal' patients. However, my point here is that in order to get the palliative care in the 1st place a patient needs to have the banding form completed to ensure NHS funded continuing care. In my experience these are very often badly completed and nurses often have not had the appropriate training to complete them (some don't even know what a banding form is, even if you use the new term 'decision tool'). I had a consultant once admit to me that he didn't have the time the thoroughly check the entries made by the nurses and that he generally just signed off on them. I had to argue one client's case about five domains on the form being incorrectly assessed lower than they should have been. The consultant admitted that I was right and upped the scores. The client still didn't meet eligibility for CC though. My point really is that often CC is not assessed properly. Often the 'we don't have abn accurate prognosis for the patient' is used and the case is batted back the local authority to deal with. We have a virtually non-existant operating budget and our carers are not usually qualified to deal with end of life scenarios. The impact of dealing with agency carers is usually enough to kill the poor buggers off anyway. I think there needs to be much more effective training in assessing for CC. The recent changes were supposed to get more people into CC but it isn't happening in my experience. End of life stuff is as harrowing for Social Workers as it is for all the involved health pros.
Excellent blog btw.
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Thank you for speaking up about Macmillan Nurses. You are the first person I have ever heard speak out about them.
The one appointed to my Mum was utterly obsessed with her own importance and enhanced salary. She told us that it was "unreasonable" to ask her for a weekly briefing on Mum's condition and refused to return calls or update us. On her occasional visits to Mum, she sailed in and out of the house without speaking or acknowledging our presence. She frequently rushed visits, citing that her presence was needed at a donation ceremony or funding meeting.
When Mum was hospitalised, a colleague of this dreadful nurse, another Macmillan nurse launched a tirade against us when we asked for some help to address Mum's issues over eating, telling us that we needed "serious counselling" as we obviously couldn't accept that Mum had a terminal illness. What patronising tripe! We had only asked for Mum to have some help. Mum's appointed Macmillan nurse managed to seriously annoy Mum's GP, by demanding inappropriate appetite stimulants, yet insisted that Mum should not be prescribed an antidepressant (which the GP agreed, would help Mum considerably). When the appetite stimulant caused Mum's face and legs to swell hugely, yet still not effectively help her appetite, this arrogant nurse told us we were "imagining things" and "looking for problems"
The only thing she organised was for an "art therapist" to visit Mum a few times who insisted that Mum should abandon her landscape oil painting, that she had enjoyed doing for over forty years and take up "colouring in triangles with crayons". There was much emphasis on "examining your feelings about dying" and endless encouragement to think "at least I know how I'm going to die" which was hatefully distressing for Mum.
Overall, I rue the day that we ever had anything to do with Macmillan. When Mum died, luckily, at home, in her sleep, this nurse, when told the next day of Mum's death, candidly suggested that we might like to donate to Macmillan for the "considerable support" they had provided. I won't type my reply to her.
However the support we got from Mum's GP and the Practice and District nurses was superb. Without them, we could not have coped. They help us organise daily carers and made regular visits. They didn't once deny us any help we asked for, and I know how pushed they are. They knew Mum well, knew us and most of all they were pursuing good care for Mum, not some drippy, inneffective vision of how dying "should be".
Once again, thank you for telling it as it regrettably is.
Truth will out
I can identify with the poster aboves experience having worked in a crisis team.
One of the nurses (a sociopath) was proud of telling us that if she found a patient to be too needy that she would ignore them because they were being too demanding on her time. She was also the one that bullied me relentlessly to the point where I ended up swearing loudly at her telling her to Piss off and to never bother me again.
Sadly the rest of the team were completely in awe of her and put her on a pedestal
She was crap and she took it out on anyone
It is a shocking indictment that there are some nurses who are pathologically bad for patients.
Powerful stuff.
And having dealt with my mother and aunt dying all too true.
MacMillan nurses got £10,000 from my aunty's will.
Bastards.
My mum, however, had a multiplicity of ailments but got excellent treatment at UCH when our own GP was giving heavy hints that slipping into unconsciousness and death through dehydration wasn't a bad way to go.
As it turned out, given the whole horror facing us six months down the line, the GP was right.
Still UCH did the business even if it was completely pointless and appalling for my mother to suffer.
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My mother died over 8 years ago.
The MacMillan nurse that 'cared' for my mother was a stuck up bitch and totally useless. She neglected my mother ...and possibly colluded with my stepfather - what i mean by that , might become clear later...
She left a plain white carrier bag full of glass morphine ampules and fitted my mother with a syringe driver .
My sister and i found the bag of morphine in the bottom of the wardrobe one day.
Dont get me wrong - i accepted my mother was very ill and didnt have long to live even though she was only 33 years old.
I was 15 at the time and my sister was 10 .
In july that year my mother had been getting some pains and the doctor gave her diazepam at first ...then over the next couple weeks the pains got worse and the doctor finally arranged for her to go in hospital and have some kind of operation.....they found the cancer had come back .
while all this was going on - i was away for a week on a school trip...when i got back my mother seemed to be set up with what i can only describe as a 'death bed' in the dining room- the bottles of oral morphine on the table and suddenly the realisation that mum was going to die because there was not much the doctors could do ....
Most of this information was told to me by my stepfather , he was an alcoholic and he and my mother had a difficult relationship.
And all this happened in the week i was away on a school trip- the week before my mother seemed fine -she was even digging flowerbeds in the garden !
My halfsister told me that my stepfather and mother had been arguing and that my mother had told her that she was going to divorce my stepfather...
i need to write all this down for the situation to make any sense..
anyway my aunt knew things were strained and didnt like the idea of my mother dying at home and wanted her in a hospice away from my stepfather.
By the end of July my mother was fitted with a syringe driver .
My mother seemed to sleep all the time once they fitted the driver - my mother woke up once , barely able to speak properly and quite distressed and asked me to get scissors. she cut the tube to her syringe driver .
It is my belief my stepfather wanted her dead and had been overdosing her ...that bag of morphine i mentioned earlier- where did it come from? that could only have been provided by the mcmillan nurse
the macmillan nurse came to fix the syringe driver tubing and i never saw the macmillan nurse again after that.
my mother died 3 days later. of dehydration and overdose of morphine.
the incident with the syringe tube being cut didnt raise any suspicions for the nurse or the fact my stepfather stank of whiskey or the concerns my aunt had showed for my mothers care - the macmilllan nurse didnt seem interested.
my mother was not washed, nobody changed her sanitary pads and she was neglected by the macmillan nurse . I didnt even know the number to call the macmillan nurse and i assumed the nurse would think i was being stupid anyway- Also i was very scared of my stepfather he could be very violent and had hit my mother and me.
I regret now that i never asked more questions or asked for a different nurse to treat my mother ...but i was only 15 at the time and the nurse was responsible for my mother and as ive said she wasnt very friendly -she hardly spoke to me or my sister and was possibly scared of my stepfather but even so - if she had cared she would of reported it.
My stepfather commited suicide a year later after i left home .
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