How to stop masturbation

My teenage daughter once caught me at it, in flagrante, late at night when I thought everyone else was in bed. She was appalled and ashamed. I would never do it in public. I am usually on-line when I do it, and always in the privacy of my own home. I keep promising myself that I will stop doing it, but I am hooked. And yet, it stresses me beyond imagination. I am sure it furs up my coronary arteries though I doubt it affects my prostate. Sometimes – and I do not exaggerate – it makes me shake with anger. I talk, of course, of my habit of reading the Daily Mail.
GPs will be paid bonuses for persuading teenagers to have long-lasting contraceptive implants and jabs without their parents' knowledge, it has emerged.
Daily Mail
To make matters worse, the Daily Mail actually quotes a members of JABS, as if to suggest they are a reputable scientific organisation rather than mono-maniacal, rent-a-quote, anti-vaccine lunatics. Maybe the Daily Mail actually used the Jabs-o-tron.
GPs will be paid to 'encourage' girls to have sex
Daily Mail
Jackie Fletcher, of the antivaccine group Jabs, said: ' Giving a doctor a monetary gain to promote a product is abhorrent, especially if it is a vaccine with possible side-effects.If Jackie “shit for brains” Fletcher had her way, half the world would have died of smallpox. How can the Daily Mail quote this woman?
ibid
Can someone explain why it is that otherwise intelligent people can seriously argue that better contraception causes pregnancy?
And it will once again result in yet more child and adolescent promiscuity, yet further rises in sexually-transmitted infections among the young and very young, yet more teenage pregnancies and abortions, yet more emotional chaos and arrested development, and an ever-deepening cycle of deprivation and dysfunctionality down through the generations.Sex education and the wide availablility of contraception does not cause pregnancy. Go and spend a week in Holland, Melanie.
Melanie Phillps
At a time when a coalition of English low-life, chattering prudes and naïve God botherers are uniting to express their faux outrage about a 13 year old boy who has got his girlfriend up the duff, you would think that someone, somewhere might have pointed out that contraceptive advice would have prevented this mishap.
Human beings are physically able to procreate in their early teenage years, and they have powerful circulating hormones driving them to do just that. You won't stop them doing it by shouting at them. You won't make them do it by providing them with contraceptive advice and you will only confuse them by giving them a dose of self-righteous Melanie Phillips. I am reminded of a story told by one of my most eminent blogging colleagues. When he was a teenager (we are going back now to the days of black polo neck sweaters, and youth clubs with coffee and table tennis and trendy vicars) the boys were told by said trendy vicar that the best way to stop the evils of nocturnal masturbation was to go to bed with a string threaded with corks tied round their waists, with the corks positioned on their backs. This would force them to sleep on their fronts, making it more difficult for them to handle their penises. It is advice like this (and this : see Thursday 2nd March) upon which the British Empire was founded.
Like the trendy vicar of the sixties, Family and Youth Concern are purveyors of the “corks on a string” approach to sex education and contraception:
...the confidential provision of the emergency pill to underage girls strikes at the heart of the relationship between parents and children and carries with it serious health risks and negative social consequences.I wonder if the dysfunctional parents of Alfie and Chantelle would have been outraged if Chantelle had been brave enough (it may well be that she did not understand) to get the morning after pill? Corks on strings, the prayers of Family and Youth Concern, and advice from Melanie Phillips about “saving it for marriage” will not hold back the demands of biology. Teenagers do not understand the pleasures of delayed gratification.
Family and Youth Concern
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44 Comments:
When these low class brainless shit scums get pregnant and decide to have families at OUR expense, they should be arrested and anaesthetised and given a forced abortion.
There should also be a three strike rule, if this happens a few more times, they should be surgically/chemically made infertile.
All they produce are more generations of retarded, uneducated fucks that live off the hard working people in this country.
That's just as bad you twit. Although I do hope you are not serious.
I like the JABS website. It's better than paying tuppence to see the loonies in Bedlam.
And it's free.
A while back I was on a youth trip as a mentor.
At about 3am, a rather pissed 16 year old lad came up to me.
'ere, you got any condoms?'
My reaction? To point him in the direction of someone who had, and give him major brownie points for asking. Responsible lad, despite his condition!
It's education. That's it.
"I like the JABS website".
I suppose CRIPPO you are good for a laugh just like Rita is occasionally :)
Don't forget Rita "Stars" can shoot, they are known to fall. :)
Thanks for the entertainment anyway.
Whale to? Just exactly who is he/she...
A fine rant at a few of your Bete Noirs John but what is your solution to the level of teenage pregnancies and STI's. You don't really believe that it is due to the unavailability of contraception and poor sex education do you? Maybe you do.
I'm glad that you used the example of Holland in your arguement. The clear problem in Britain is our "Broken Society". Increasing the availability on contraception without actively trying to reduce sexual activity in teenagers is promoting the problem. Encouraging self-control and "Delayed Gratification" is not a bad idea. There are medical reasons why sexual activity at a young age is not a good idea as you well know.
A lot of our social ills in this country are due to the Left's carrot without a stick policies.
The Left's policies in this area have contributed to the problem. Sneering at the Right doesn't achieve anything.
Matt, I do believe that poor sex education is the main culprit. Dysfunctional families are also to blame but are harder to tackle.
All the evidence suggests that the more young children are educated about sex, contraception and STIs, the more responsible they are about it. I would start sex education in primary school, and I would give all those Janet and Johns in the reading books genitals and pubic hair, rather than bald "Y"s
Road safety is taught to 4 year olds. You would not say "they are too young to be told about traffic". Why not teach them about procreation too? It is a normal part of life.
John
"I do believe that poor sex education is the main culprit"
Well I don't. The main problem in my view is that too many teenagers and parents in this country don't give a shit. STI's can be treated and pregnancies can be aborted as a right.
Things in Holland are better because more teenagers and their parents have pride, self-respect and ambition. In Holland, the ultimate example of a sexually permissive society, a teenage pregancy is still associated with a degree of shame. In this country, it is seen as a badge of honour in many cases.
Joshua said...
When these low class brainless shit scums get pregnant and decide to have families at OUR expense, they should be arrested and anaesthetised and given a forced abortion.
There should also be a three strike rule, if this happens a few more times, they should be surgically/chemically made infertile.
All they produce are more generations of retarded, uneducated fucks that live off the hard working people in this country.
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no, fuck you, self righteous pompous idiot. reproducing is a right, not a privilege you need a permit for.
Am not very often spurred to stick my oar in, BUT, despite his obvious trolling, I am compelled to respond to the ideas behind Joshua's rant:
The notion that only certain sections of society should be allowed to reproduce, in this case the supposedly intelligent, is absolutely abhorrent. I understand the 'logic' that society would improve were there less "brainless scum" around, however that's called eugenics and was somewhat disgraced as a concept some 70 years ago. Being a good parent does not depend on intelligence, bar at both extremes of the gamut.
Would suggest Joshua engages brain, if able to, before touching keyboard.
j
There's an interesting point of view here to the effect that the age of consent as it currently stands is a product of recent prudishness:
http://www.openintegral.net/blog/?p=36
In other words, it's 100% natural for 13-year-olds to be having sex, that's what they're biologically programmed to do, and contraception is the best thing to give them.
Sorry, link
I vehemently disagree with JABS about their core message. However, as the old saying goes, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
"Giving a doctor a monetary gain to promote a product is abhorrent, especially if it is a vaccine with possible side-effects."
Is actually a fair point in my view. I take the view that GPs, being highly trained professionals who generally have the interests of each individual patient at heart should be paid a flat-rate professional salary and make decisions about what treatments to recommend based on available evidence and knowledge of *each individual* patient.
Most QOF targets are well-intentioned but meaningless as in many cases I believe GPs were often already doing the things specified (e.g. measuring and treating blood pressure in patients with cardiac and renal disease).
I strongly agree that teenagers should be encouraged towards LARC and the HPV vaccination. I think most GPs probably feel that way too. Paying them to do so adds controversy to the issue, without (I suspect) improving outcomes.
If this were victorian times they would be in the work house because it is 2009 theyll get a council house
Anyone in London want a few years worth of BMJs before they hit the recycle bin?
'reproducing is a right, not a privilege you need a permit for.'
Quite true. The problem is, the responsible part of society (those who work and pay taxes) is forced to pay for the results, both directly (welfare) and indirectly (crime).
Completely O/T -
900 million reasons why nurses have "productive wards" to help them clean and sort cupboards...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7881807.stm
"Paying them to do so adds controversy to the issue, without (I suspect) improving outcomes."
You are wrong! When targets for cervical smears and childhood immunizations were introduced in 1990 (a long time before QOF), the rates increased exponentially. There's nothing like a target to get a GP's interest.
The "but Doctors get paid to increase immunisation/smear rates" arguement is fatuous and simply a smokescreen. If these targets were removed in the morning, the moonbats would continue with their arguements. Doctors, by and large, fully immunise their own children. Are you argueing that they do so simply out of greed?
Becca is right on the button. It is somewhat demeaning of the medical profession for it to expect to be "bribed" or "paid commission" to act in the best interests of its patients; but this is what we have come to expect of the NHS nowadays.
Human nature, from which even Doctors are not immune, is that things which are specifically rewarded will get specific attention. Cervical cancer rates are now so low in this country because GPs were rewarded for chasing up patients and getting the smears done - these days it is rare to find a patient with cervical cancer who has undergone screening. HPV vaccination will reduce the rates further - its a horrible, horrible disease which kills young women (often who have Children and years of productive life infront of them), the risk of contracting HPV has never stopped young people having sex (its far less immediately obvious than pregnancy or chlamydia), there is no reason to believe that vaccinating against it will increase rates of underage or unprotected sex.
In general terms the countries with the most liberal attitudes towards sex and sex education and provision of contraception have the lowest rates of teenage pregnancy. It is frankly the censoriousness and prudishness of this country which is associated with the high rates of teenage pregnancy, alongside poverty (both economic, and ambition).
Making contraception freely available will not, in and of itself, reduce the rate of teenage pregnancy - but combine it with decent sex education from an early age, a less snickering and immature attitude from adults, and a less unequal society and the rates would plummet. Indeed funnily enough age of first sexual intercourse INCREASES with better and earlier sex education.
But heh, why let the evidence dictate policy when we can have 'faith based' initiatives and the Daily (hate) Mail.
"It is somewhat demeaning of the medical profession for it to expect to be "bribed" or "paid commission" to act in the best interests of its patients; but this is what we have come to expect of the NHS nowadays."
Claptrap. Medicine is a "Business" like any other. Incentives work in other areas so why not Medicine?
What makes the difference in Holland is not so much the early sex education as that teenage pregnancy still carries a stigma and young girls do not expect to be supported by the State. Also peer pressure works better than anything, and a young girl getting pregnant would be regarded aas a fool. Until attitudes change here and pregnancy stops being regarded as a lifestyle option all the sex education in the world won't make any difference. After all it is a rational choice for young uneducated women with no ambition and few suitable partners around. A house, regular if not very big income and a baby to love. Trouble is these lovely babies grow up to be troublesome 10 and 11 year olds just at a time when mum wants to have some fun while she is still young and the cycle starts all over again. I could have cried when I looked at these children and that little baby whose future is almost mapped out for her.
I think it helps to think about how rare this is. Yes, there are teenagers getting pregnant, but teens include 16, 17,18 and 19 year olds, all of whom are above the age of consent and old enough to get married. The number of underage teens getting pregnant is small.
It's not a new phenomenon. Ask granny if it happened in her day. You will find that it did.
If we want to stop children from having sex, rather than worrying about whether the availability of a contraceptive will influence them, why not teach them how to say no? I had plenty of fellow pupils at school without the confidence or skill to say no.
At infant school age, I could identify a copper 7 and knew what it was used for and where it was put. That didn't make me go out and have sex as soon as I was physically able to do so.
Matt: Claptrap. Medicine is a "Business" like any other. Incentives work in other areas so why not Medicine?
No it's not 'like any other'.
It's more like a badly run county council highways dept.
Jackie Fletcher is worth ten of you. You are an ignorant buffoon and ad hominem like that shows you up for what you really are. You have lost the argument, Crippen.
When these low class brainless shit scums get pregnant and decide to have families at OUR expense, they should be arrested and anaesthetised and given a forced abortion.
Do people call you a cunt much Joshua? If not, you should get out more.
It's this kind of naked contempt for the "lower orders" that is part of the problem, if you ask me. What do Alfie and Chantelle see on a daily basis. Failure and diminished expectations on a massive scale, all around them and all to a chorus of sneering from the likes of Joshua. So why bother trying to clamber out of it? There's always some Joshua round the corner waiting to put you down. Pass your exams and of course they were "dumbed down" especially for the oiks off the estate. Go to uni and it's probably "not a proper uni" in the first place and your qualification is a "mickey mouse degree" that you got only through "social engineering". And try and get a job in certain industries and the door is firmly closed unless you happen to be related to the managing director or the editor. So why not just do as you're expected to do anyway and have a kid? You might get a bit extra in your hand, even a place to live and you've got a career of sorts all mapped out for the next 16 or so years.
I wish them well, because they're going to need some good wishes.
Dr Crippen,
Completely unrelated to this blog post, but you may be interested in this: Ethical Debate: Do We Still Need Doctors?
Sadly Wrexham is a bit of a trek...there
Sadly, I can't make that talk at Wrexham.The distance is manageable but the date is not. I note a nurse who calls himself "Dr" is speaking. These nurses with a PhD-lite (remember dear old Noctor Hawksley? If not, see here:http://nhsblogdoc.blogspot.com/2008/11/more-good-news-from-department-of.html) really ought to be legally obliged to point out that they are not medically qualified
John
Matt, what you are arguing for, in your defence of incentive payments, is privatisation of the GP service. I am in total agreement of this. If GPs want to operate as businesses they should not benefit from employee benefits such as index-linked pensions subsidised by the taxpayer. I had always believed that the incentive payments were intended to be used to enable the work to be carried out, not to end up in the back pockets of greedy partners.
"Matt, what you are arguing for, in your defence of incentive payments, is privatisation of the GP service."
No I am not. Incentives work just as well in the public as the private centre.
"I had always believed that the incentive payments were intended to be used to enable the work to be carried out, not to end up in the back pockets of greedy partners."
What is your basis for that slanderous comment? The practice gets the incentive payment if the target is reached. Part of that payment will be profit. It wouldn't be an incentive otherwise. Get it?
Saw the footage whilst on holiday (BBC world news). Sad sad sad. Not sure what the solution is- when I was at school (RC girls school) we had no sex education from the nuns...however growing up on a farm means you are pretty clued up on the where baby animals come from so putting 2 and 2 together was not that hard. Anyone remember the "Pram face" documentaries last year- certainly put paid to the idea that getting pregnant gets you a council house. Or Cathy come home? Its not a new problem and to be honest I'm not sure that the under 16s make up any bigger % than they did 50 years ago. I have worked in parts of the UK where getting a girl pregnant was seen as a badge of honour for the boy in question but not for the girl. I have also seen children in ED that are from "nice" families so that NAI can't possibly be real...yeh right.
youth clubs with coffee and table tennis and trendy vicars
Hey, I went to one of those, and I'm only 25!
I was reading up on the psychology and public perception of risk this weekend, and one of the key factors is that people perceive an incident as much more serious if they think it tells them something about its occurrence in future. I think this is what's going on here - the Mail is trying (subtly) to whip up hysteria on the basis that all 13-year-olds will start fathering kids right left and centre and society will collapse around our ears and blah.
It won't. Nothing has changed. Even the Sun noted that a 12-year-old boy has fathered a baby in the UK before. There will always be extreme points on any given curve; teenagers have always had babies, and where it's the smart choice for them in terms of incentives, they will continue to do so. So what?
This was a very interesting an honest post. Very refreshing to see that openess.
"Doctors, by and large, fully immunise their own children. Are you argueing that they do so simply out of greed?"
Matt, this is the exact opposite of what I'm arguing. The majority of doctors fully immunise their own children because its in the best interest of those children. Most doctors would try to persuade doubting parents to immunise chidren because the child is their patient and they want to act in the best interests of that patient. However, if doubting mum knows the doctor will be paid more if she agrees to immunise her child, she is less likely to believe any scientific argument the doctor puts forward in favour of vaccination and more likely to believe that the doctor is motivated to look after his/her wallet rather than her child.
I do understand your point that incentives increase productivity but I think that the current government has woefully overestimated the ability of targets and financial incentives to improve the NHS. The majority of staff are already working hard in the best interests of patients. Targets mostly result in changes in services that have little real benefit to patients or people juggling the books to meet targets (to avoid their service being downgraded by funding cuts). See some of these posts for details:
http://nhsblogdoc.blogspot.com/2008/02/heathrow-strategy-hitting-more.html
http://nhsblogdoc.blogspot.com/2006/03/crippen-diaries-2006-week-10.html
"Targets mostly result in changes in services that have little real benefit to patients or people juggling the books to meet targets (to avoid their service being downgraded by funding cuts)."
I fully agree. A lot of the QOF targets are pointless. The 4hr and 18wk targets in Secondary Care are resulting in a deterioration in care. The smear and immunisation targets, however, are an example of how things can work well.
"if doubting mum knows the doctor will be paid more if she agrees to immunise her child, she is less likely to believe any scientific argument the doctor puts forward in favour of vaccination and more likely to believe that the doctor is motivated to look after his/her wallet rather than her child."
Doubting Mum has been fooled and confused by a media who have their own agenda, a researcher who manipulated his data and by vociferous deluded pressure groups. The GP in this country has become a bogey-man to be abused and misrepresented by all sides.
Best we not be paid at all. Then you may trust our judgement!
Oh, you can add New Labour and that dublicitous bastard Blair into the confusion as well!
I grew up on a very rough council estate. The girls who got pregnant young were in general not those who were confident boy crazy girls. They were those like my best friend who was pregnant at 15 because she was quiet and shy, glad to have a boyfriend, and didn't have the confidence to insist that her reluctant boyfriend wore a condom.
I have more recently talked to young girls who are pregnant or who have a baby. It is not unusual when talking to them to find out they slept with a boy without using contraception because that is what he wanted. They didn't think about what they wanted.
Sex education is important, but even more important is to build up the confidence of girls to be able to say no they don't want sex or they will only do so if a condom is used. Not easy to do though in practice.
Ruth, very well said.
Polly Toynbee has it right in todays Guardian (and that's a phrase I don't use too often).
The "broken society" "chav scum" argument and the role of sex education ignores the main causal factor - it's poverty, people who are born in poverty, brought up in poverty, educated in poverty have, not surprisingly, narrower horizons, less self belief, less self worth, less ambition. They have less incentive to control their behaviour, less of a penalty if they don't.
Surely that's the difference between the UK and Holland, it's a more equal society, with less polarization between rich and poor.
NI GP
Define poverty.
"They have less incentive to control their behaviour, less of a penalty if they don't."
Spot on. The State encourages them.
great post and shocking to find the loonies at JABS - someone really should take the BBC to task for linking to this drivel
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Anyone seen the film "Idiocracy"? Makes you wonder about social breeding programs......
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Here is an interesting view on children and sex. I believe children should know more about the act of love-making. http://jujumama.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/therein-lies-the-challenge/
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I just happened across your blog and cannot resist commenting despite this being an older post.
Here in the US we have our own version of Melanie Philips and her ilk but we call them "Right Wing Evangical Nut Jobs". I must say it's rather a relief to see that breed over there, too, as I thought it was solely an embarassing USA phenomenon.
We also have our controversy regarding sex ed vs. abstinence only education in our public schools. Naturally under Mr. Bush abstinence won out. It still stuns me (although it shouldn't) that some still insist upon abstinence only education despite the fact that it results in more pregnancies.
It's purposeful ignorance.
Reviewing this post linked from your front page, I am reminded of a skit from an episode of the Red Green Show, a delightful Canadian skit comedy show. Red was asking his friend Dalton Humphrey when he told his daughter the "facts of life".
"So, ah, when did you tell your daughter?"
"Oh, we haven't told her yet."
"She's 20. She's got a boyfriend."
"You know what it is, it's puppy love."
"Well, I was just thinking, since she's moved in with him and all."
"I'll tell her when she's ready!"
"Well, I hope you can get her attention in the delivery room."
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