Wednesday, July 08, 2009

Homeopathy at work



An NHS BLOG DOCTOR reader draws my attention to this video.

Joy.

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51 Comments:

Anonymous Crippo still rather pissed off but a little more cheerful said...

Thanks for cheering me up John, I needed that!

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny! - it might help cheer up the 250,000 people who suffer the effects of 'real medicine'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1197711/11-errors-day-NHS-surgery.html

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

... and hopefully also the millions of idiots who spend money on small bottles of 'special' water.

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon @ 11:11:
You just quoted the Daily Mail as a reliable source of information.
That was probably funnier than Mitchell & Webb.

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous dearieme said...

When my daughter was little we were watching a football game. Someone went down and the spongeman ran on. "Look, the aromatherapist" she said.

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Alex Berkman said...

There's absolutely nothing wrong with homeopathy at all.

It's natural selection at work, plain and simple. :)

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:00:00 PM  
Blogger The Hippocratic Oaf said...

Very good! Thanks for sharing, I hadn't watched that episode on iPlayer as yet but am about to.

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Monkeys recognise 'bad grammar'

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:29:00 PM  
Anonymous capgrass said...

abosolutely the best best post EVER
more of the same PLEEEZE!!!!!

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:28:00 PM  
Anonymous diluted said...

Pints of homeopathic lager all round! Hic!

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know, one could run almost the same sort of sketch- but with doctors who think everything is 'psychosomatic'.

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 4:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Other Anonymous - ISTR French and Saunders did something along those lines - not doctors, but two country women who would lose limbs and declare it was just a scratch, and refuse to go to hospital.

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha Ha Ha Hee Hee Hee. That sums it all up as far as I'm concerned. I'm quite a fan of www.skepdic.com

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:36:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Baxter said...

Nonsense. Very unfair on homeopathy. I used to go out with a lady who was a constant bag or nerves, tantrums, screaming sessions, stomach pains, the whole ticket. She decided hoemopathy was the thing for her. She's tried herbs, relexology, crystals - I'd already been bawled out for suggesting ketamine even before I could make clear that I wanted it for myself.

Great success. Total serenity for about an hour and a half. Then I rattled a cup too loudly in its saucer and we were off again. But I'll never forget that ninety minutes.

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Matt said...

"but with doctors who think everything is 'psychosomatic"

ME/CFS troll alert!

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:45:00 PM  
Anonymous E said...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RQjQvxtmK8A/SlJEA1X_QcI/AAAAAAAABgk/f0gOdS-xZCM/s400/Hospital+Sign.png

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Michael Pain said...

How to buy prescription drugs? My doctor prescribed vicodin for a while back, my back hurts, I think it is a great help, but in my country it is difficult to find, it is paramount to have my information on it and found information about findrxonline the medicine, because it provided me.

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:43:00 PM  
Blogger Dino-nurse said...

Joy!
Also remember the French and Saunders one. Interestingly when I worked in ED many years ago, we had alot of patients who were farmers who would insist it was "just a scratch" when in fact they had almost severed a limb...also drove themselves to ED as they didn't want to bother the ambulance service.
Looking forward to the new nurse comedy on BBC4 tonight with Jo Brand...lets hope its as good as its been painted.

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:00:00 PM  
Anonymous farmer with tractor up his bum said...

what time is the nurse comedy? have i missed it

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:11:00 PM  
Blogger ambrosen said...

Farmer, it's at http://bbc.co.uk/i/llg8k/

Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous:

You know, one could run almost the same sort of sketch- but with doctors who think everything is 'psychosomatic'.

But ME isn't a rich source of comedy.
Surely.

Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous rich comedy said...

i nursed a patient last night. she had just recently been taken off a ventilator and come off a diasysis machine. her legs and arms were very swollen and puffy. I advised her to drink lots of Fortisips as she was obviously very malnourished having been so very ill with septicaemia. She told me she is a vegetarian and has M.E. she does not drink fortisips because they might contain animal products. Dear Lady! just think of all the animals that were tested in order for us to learn how to use protein C, renal filters, ventilators........anyone been in a sheep ICU where they do all these trials? or seen what they do to a baboon in order to see its reaction to septic shock?
so yes, i did find the fact that the woman now wont sip on a bit of fortisip..........ironic comedy indeed. maybe i ought to puree her a bean caserole and shove it down her NG tube? but then again there is another patient waiting to come in on the orthopaedic ward with a base deficit of -17. perhaps this patient would like to wait while i pander to the vegetarian.

Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Watch Free Online TV Unlimited said...

Thanks this excellent video. Learned a lot from it.

Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rich Comedy - she got extubated with ME? Surely she was too weak to wean?
I do love the irony though

Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:56:00 AM  
Blogger GP Informed said...

Wondeful! Thanks for making me smile during morning surgery.

Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr John Crippen,

'Physician heal thyself ..... '.

Blinkered vision, arrogance and a closed mind are true measures of a person's intelligence.

A friend was spared surgery for the removal of kidney stones by homeopathic treatment which totally dissolved them. Cause, antidote, cure.

Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's no PFI's/dubious profit making available from 'holistic medicine' is there ?

Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:14:00 PM  
Anonymous the sckness of lovelessness said...

"There are many medicines and cares for all kinds of sick people. But unless kind hands are given in service and generous hearts are given in love, I do not think there can ever be any cure for the terrible sickness of feeling unloved."
Mother theresa

Thursday, July 09, 2009 3:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But ME isn't a rich source of comedy.
Surely."

No, you're right of course - but stupid belief systems by some people CAN be comically ludicrous. The way 'ME' patients are treated is subject to quite comically absurd belief systems, sadly held by a lot by doctors etc. Look at "rich comedy's" story that doesn't quite add up, for one example! It's kind of funny in its way because of the cruelty of 'rich comedy' and their treatment of the subject (the sick woman) in their little vignette.

So yes, I was being satirical when I said there could be a sketch about doctors believing everything is psychosomatic. It could be very funny indeed, equal to, possibly surpassing, the homeopathic A&E sketch.

Mind you, morons who say 'ooh, troll alert' every time they don't like something that's been said are also a possible source of future comedy. I can see the catchphrase "troll alert!" belonging to some greasy haired nerdy type, much in the same genre as that woman on Little Britain whose catchphrase is "computer says no".

Seriously, could be a very funny long-running sketch.

Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Fox in sox said...

Anonymous 0421,

Doesn't exactly sound sidesplitting does it?

Mitchell and Webb one of the few good comedies about at present, but this sketch was bang on nailhead.

Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:19:00 PM  
Anonymous rich comedy said...

I wasnt cruel to the poor patient. i gave her the portable phone, got her to ring her husband and then spoke to him, explaining that he ought to go to the shop and buy her something tasty and expensive and nutricious and easy to swallow. I was glad to give the husband something to do. (he has been in a constand bedside vigil for 2 weeks. I was glad that the woman was alive, and not a sheep or a babboon, and still able to assert what was possibly the only tiny bit of autonomy she had: her own sense of personhood: that she was an individual. maybe that spark is what kept her alive. lets hope though that she does recieve enough nutrition and can convalese. I just blog to express MY frustration. I am perfectly LOVELY when at work......dont worry anonymous 4:21. but i have to be cross SOMEPLACE o.k!!!
a bit of alterntive therapy will probably help this lady in the months to come; recover from the traumas she has faced. e.g a massage

Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Drugzcarr said...

Stop experiments on animals, as much evidence that these animals are not suitable for humans, in an article in findrxonline suggest that medications like Vicodin, lortab, Lorcet, and experiments were also none of them said that and relieve pain, were also anxiolytics.

Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Jane_T said...

"But ME isn't a rich source of comedy.
Surely."

How about the Ricky Gervais ME sketch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj5WpaAA9_8

I think quite a few commentators here have based their medical knowledge of ME on this sketch!

Friday, July 10, 2009 12:27:00 AM  
Blogger Zarathustra said...

I love that Mitchell and Webb skit. Brilliant stuff.


A homeopath once tried to treat my veruccas. What a waste of time that was. I guess veruccas don't respond to the placebo effect.

Friday, July 10, 2009 8:57:00 AM  
Anonymous James said...

I see Michell & Webb gave Nutritionists a good kicking this week too.

As for homeopathy not doing any harm, ever heard of Zicam? I presume not. You certainly won't be smelling it.

http://zicam.vanosteen.com/news.asp

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2009/06/15/daily49.html

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/afx/2009/07/02/afx6614345.html

Oh no, hang on. It did people harm because they forgot to actually just put some water in a bottle and actually bothered to add something. Which made lots of people lose their sense of smell. Could they also be sued for calling it 'homeopathic' then? Given that is actually contained an active ingredient?

Friday, July 10, 2009 9:55:00 AM  
Anonymous James said...

Here's an even better indictment of homeopathic regulation in the US if anyone's interested:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gQ2bZ11tGtoiKx6BO5K70Lx1ETmgD98SK27G0

Friday, July 10, 2009 9:58:00 AM  
Anonymous M.T. said...

how to be a good sister:

speak as little as possible.
avoid curiosity.
take care of one`s personal life.
do not meddle in the affairs of others.
accept contradictions wih good humour.
do not focus on the faults of others.
accept reproach, even if undeserved.
yeild to the will of others.
accept insults and abuse.
accept feeling uncared for, forgotten, despised.
be courteous and sensitive, even if someone provokes you.
do not try to be admired and loved.
do not hide behind one`s own dignity.
yield in arguments, even if one is right.
always choose waht is most difficult.

Friday, July 10, 2009 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Legaldruguser1 said...

Nobody is free of cancer, hopefully soon find a cure and to fight this disease now, because it is tedious to go to therapy all the time and drugs to treat the disease are very strong opiates as vicodin, hydrocodone, Lortab, Norco medicines too high in codeine and acetaminophen considered hallucinogenic drugs, as indicated in findrxonline.com then imagine how much pain, really hope there will be a solution as quickly as possible for this .....

Friday, July 10, 2009 5:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nutritionists on Mitchell and Webb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SavsJYXWgm8

Sadly this sort of twaddle causes a problem for those of us who have medically-diagnosed coeliac disease. ):

Friday, July 10, 2009 10:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lol, those sketches are good but anon@10:14pm is right as well.

Neelu

Friday, July 10, 2009 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon - I don't think its aimed at those with coeliac disease. As you say, medically diagnosed, not by someone with an internet degree. I would hope most people are intelligent enough to know the difference.
Oh, I see your point.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:54:00 AM - I don't think its aimed at those with coeliac disease. As you say, medically diagnosed, not by someone with an internet degree. I would hope most people are intelligent enough to know the difference.
Oh, I see your point.

****

Hi,

I made the original comment about coeliac. To clarify, my point is that if I say I need to avoid wheat/gluten then the person hearing that may think, "you are one of those people who go in for food fads, or are naive and have been taken in by some spurious nutritionist adviser".

The twaddle out there, gives untrue negative connotations to me saying I need to avoid wheat.

anon@10:14pm

Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last anon with Coeliac. I agree completely. Another thing to blame the nutritionists for.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:45:00 AM  
Blogger Dino-nurse said...

Not sure what to make of the Jo Brand comedy. Bits were funny but its not Scrubs...or MASH. Time will tell I guess.
As for sheep ICU...have seen some footage from these...also dogs and monkeys....used to work in a hospital attached to a well known London University that constantly had animal lib protestors outside of it (unbeknown to them the animal work was in the university, not the hospital). Also worked in a lab where we murdered fruit flies on a daily basis...funny, we never had any protestors. Not cute enough. Had one prof who used to court danger by going out into the crowd of protestors and ask for volunteers to take the place of the animals...also loved to point out various ailments amongst the protestors that without animal work (into anaethesia for example) would never have been treated.
Had never considered that Fortisips have animal products in them? We have alot of patients admitted to MAU that take a Halal diet, for example. Will have to be a good girl and check this out with the dieticians. We have had one patient who refused antiobiotics because they had been tested on animals...however they did not turn down admission to the AICU when the refusal to take said drugs took its toll. Legal department made the family sign a disclaimer first, I might add.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 5:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very funny! (Including the fact that one of the Google Ads accompanying this post reads "Homeopathy College
Become a Homeopath Part-time and Full-time courses " - clearly Ad-Bots can't read..)

Bagpuss.

Saturday, July 11, 2009 5:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A friend was spared surgery for the removal of kidney stones by homeopathic treatment which totally dissolved them. Cause, antidote, cure."

How?

Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"There's no PFI's/dubious profit making available from 'holistic medicine' is there ?"

Actually there is buckets of cash being made out of such treatments.

Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Alex Berkman said...

Dino-nurse, are you in the states?

If not, it's "dietitians" - they get very upset when it's spelt the american way!

Tut. :D

Monday, July 13, 2009 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous harry said...

Homeopathy is good. But i want to know that is there any side effects of this?
http://www.resveratroluses.com

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Primate said...

Ha! Excellent clip. A friend of mine commented when passing a homeopathic hospital recently - "Why is it such a large building? Surely a smaller one would be more effective?"

Primate

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was this clip the Mitchell and Webb one, or something else? The link seems to be broken for me...

Friday, July 17, 2009 1:38:00 AM  

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